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1 SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK
COUNTY OF NEW YORK - CI VI L TERM: PART 3
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YASEMI N TEKI NER,
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i n her indi vi dual c apac i t y, as a
4 benef i ci ar y and a Tr us t ee of t he
Yas emi n Tek i ner 201 1 Des c endant s
5 Tr us t and der i v at i v el y as a hol der I NDEX NO.
of equi t abl e i nt er es t s i n a 6571 93/ 2020
6 s har ehol der or a member of t he
Company Def endant s ,
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Pl ai nt i ff.
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- agai ns t -
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BREMEN HOUSE I NC. , BREMEN HOUSE TEXAS,
10 I NC. , GERMAN NEWS COMPANY, INC. , GERMAN
NEWS TEXAS, INC. , 254- 258 W. 35TH ST. L L C,
11 BERRI N TEKI NER, GONCA TEKI NER, and
BI L L UR AKI PECK, i n her c apac i ty as a
12 Tr us t ee of The Yas emi n Tek i ner 201 1
Des c endant s Tr us t
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Def endant s .
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ZEYNEP TEKI NER,
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i n her indi vi dual c apac i t y, as a
16 benef i ci ar y and a Tr us t ee of t he
Zey nep Tek i ner 201 1 Des c endant s Tr us t
17 and der i v at i v el y as a hol der of
equi t abl e i nt er es t s i n a s har ehol der
18 or a member of t he Company Def endant s ,
19 I nt er v enor - Pl ai nt i ff,
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21 BREMEN HOUSE I NC. , BREMEN HOUSE TEXAS,
I NC. , GERMAN NEWS COMPANY, INC. , GERMAN
22 NEWS TEXAS, INC. , 254- 258 W. 35TH ST. L L C,
BERRI N TEKI NER, GONCA TEKI NER, and
23 BI L L UR AKI PECK, i n her c apac i ty as a
Tr us t ee of The Yas emi n Tek i ner 201 1
24 Des c endant s Tr us t ,
25 Def endant s .
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60 Cent r e St r eet - Room 208
2 New Yor k , New Yor k
Augus t 1 5, 2022
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B E F O R E:
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THE HONORABL E J OEL M. COHEN, J us t i ce
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6 A P P E A R A N C E S:
7 PARKER, I BRAHI M& BERG LLC
At t or ney s f or Pl ai nt i ff Yas emi n Tek i ner
8 270 Dav i ds on Av enue - Sui te 600
Somer s et , New J er s ey 08873
9 BY: SCOTT PARKER, ESQ.
BY: SANJ AY IBRAHI M, ESQ.
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11 KAHN & GOL DBERG LLP
At t or ney s f or Pl ai nt i ff Zey nep Tek i ner
12 555 Fi fth Av enue - 11th Fl oor
New Yor k , New Yor k 1 001 7
13 BY: MI CHEL E KAHN, ESQ.
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F OL EY HOAG LLP ( Appear i ng vi r t ual l y)
15 At t or ney s f or t he Pl ai nt i ffs
1 301 Av enue of t he Amer i c as - 25t h Fl oor
16 New Yor k , New Yor k 1 001 9
BY: STEPHEN P. YOUNGER, ESQ.
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PRYOR CASHMAN LLP
19 At t or ney s f or t he Def endant s
7 Ti mes Squar e
20 New Yor k , New Yor k 1 0036
BY: TODD E. SOL OWAY, ESQ.
21 BY: MEGHAN E. HI LL, ESQ.
BY: BRYAN T. MOHL ER, ESQ.
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Wi ll i am Car denut o
24 Seni or Cour t Repor t er
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1 THE COURT: Good mor ni ng, ev er y one. L et ' s s t ar t
2 wi th appear anc es begi nni ng wi th t he Pl ai nt i f f s.
3 MR. I BRAHI M: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor .
4 THE COURT: We hav e to t ur n t he mi cs on whenev er
5 we' re t al ki ng. Ot her wi s e, Mr . Younger won' t hear us .
6 MR. I BRAHI M: Good mor ni ng. Sanj ay Ibr ahi m f r om
7 Par k er , I br ahi m, and Ber g, on behal f of t he Pl ai nt i ff,
8 Yas emi n Tek i ner .
9 MR. PARKE R: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . Sc ot t
10 Par k er al so f r om Par k er , I br ahi m, and Ber g.
11 MS . KAHN: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . Mi c hel l e
12 Kahn -- I ' m s or r y , St ephen. Go ahead.
13 MR. YOUNGER: St ephen Younger f r om F ol ey Hoag on
14 behal f of Pl ai nt i ffs as wel l.
15 MS . KAHN: Good mor ni ng, agai n, y our Honor .
16 Mi c hel l e Kahn, Kahn and Gol dber g f or Pl ai nt i ff Zey nep
17 Tek i ner .
18 MR. S OL OWAY: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . Todd
19 Sol oway .
20 THE COURT: I s t hat on?
21 MR. S OL OWAY: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . Todd
22 Sol oway wi th my c ol l eagues , Br i an Mohl er and Meghan Hi l l ,
23 f or t he Def endant s who I hav e her e, y our Honor . I hav e
24 Ber r i n Tek i ner ; Gonc a Tek i ner i s i n t he bac k as wel l ;
25 Bi ll ur Ak i pec k i s nex t to her as wel l as t hei r s pous es
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1 Dav i d and Gur er .
2 THE COURT: Good mor ni ng, ev er y one. We hav e a
3 l ot to get t hr ough t oday . I s aw s ome c or r es pondenc e about
4 adj our ni ng t he ol des t of t he mot i ons , Mot i on 21 , f or
5 c ont empt whi ch I am not goi ng to do. I t hi nk t he paper s
6 ar e pr et t y s t r ai ght f or war d, but i f t he Pl ai nt i ff want s to
7 r es t at e i t br i ef l y and t hen we c an mov e on.
8 MR. PARKE R: One s ec ond, y our Honor .
9 THE COURT: We' re goi ng to hav e to be
10 ex t r aor di nar i l y ef f i ci ent t oday . We hav e a l ot to do.
11 That mi c r ophone does n' t s ound l i ke i t' s on ei t her . To
12 mak e t hi ngs mor e c ompl ic at ed, i f y ou c an t ur n of f t he des k
13 mi cs as wel l . That wi ll hel p.
14 MR. PARKE R: Your Honor , I' l l k eep t hi s
15 ex t r emel y br i ef . Wi th r es pec t to t he c ont empt mot i on,
16 we' ve met al l t he f our el ement s t hat ar e r equi r ed f or t he
17 mot i on. We hav e been negot i at i ng wi th Def endant s ' c ouns el
18 wi th r es pec t to t r yi ng to r es ol ve t he i s s ues t hat hav e
19 been r ai s ed in t he c ont empt mot i on whi ch i s why we wer e
20 s eek i ng to adj our n i t. We had an agr eement wher e t hey
21 wer e to goi ng to pr oduc e c er t ai n doc ument s , wher e t hey
22 woul d s t ar t inv ol vi ng our cl i ent wi th c ompany af f ai r s, and
23 wher e t hey woul d hol d a s pec i al meet i ng pur s uant to t he
24 by - l aws , t hat t hat agr eement c ont i nues to go on, but i n
25 t he meanwhi l e, we woul d s ugges t t hat f or al l t he r eas ons
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1 i n our paper s c ont empt i s appr opr i at e, bec aus e t he pr i mar y
2 i s s ue t hat t hey r ai s ed i n oppos i ti on in a let t er to y our
3 Honor l as t ni ght is we' re pr oduc i ng t he doc ument s , and
4 i t' s bl ac k l et t er l aw t hat y ou c an' t c ur e y our c ont empt
5 af t er t he c ont empt has oc c ur r ed. Whi l e we ar e hopef ul
6 t hat we may be abl e to r es ol ve i t, whi ch i s agai n why we
7 s ought to adj our n, i t does n' t mat t er f or pur pos es of t he
8 c ont empt mot i on. They ar e i n c ont empt .
9 THE COURT: What ' s t he par t i c ul ar par t s of t he
10 or der wi th s pec i fi ci t y?
11 MR. PARKE R: She was r ei ns t at ed as an of f i c er
12 and di r ec t or , y our Honor . I bel i ev e y our Honor made i t
13 cl ear at t he hear i ng on Apr i l 1 8t h t hat s he was to be
14 f ul l y i ns t at ed i n her pos i ti ons , and t he c ompany was to
15 r es ume its nor mal bus i nes s pr ac t i c es , and up to t he poi nt
16 we fi l ed t he mot i on, Def endant s hav e not done t hat . They
17 hav e not i nv ol v ed Yas emi n i n any meet i ngs . They hav e
18 not --
19 THE COURT: J us t r emi nd me. What ar e t he wor ds
20 of t he ac t ual wr i t t en or der ?
21 MR. PARKE R: I don' t hav e t he or der i n f r ont of
22 me, y our Honor .
23 THE COURT: Ok ay . But --
24 MR. PARKE R: Yes . And none of t hos e t hi ngs --
25 THE COURT: The t hr us t was t hat s he be
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1 r ei ns t at ed as an of f i c er and di r ec t or .
2 MR. PARKE R: Ex ac t l y ri ght , y our Honor , and be
3 abl e to par t i ci pat e and hav e a s ay . I t hi nk y our Honor
4 par t i c ul ar l y s ai d s he' s goi ng to hav e a s ay on how t hi s
5 bus i nes s i s r un.
6 THE COURT: I under s t and v ar i ous t hi ngs I s ay
7 dur i ng hear i ngs whi ch add c ol or , per haps , but t hi s i s a
8 c ont empt mot i on. The ques t i on i s what does t he or der s ay ?
9 MR. PARKE R: Yes , y our Honor . Under s t ood.
10 THE COURT: L et me hear f r om t he def ens e.
11 MR. S OL OWAY: Twof ol d, y our Honor . Do y ou want
12 me to go t her e?
13 THE COURT: I t' s eas i er f or me and t he
14 r epor t er .
15 MR. S OL OWAY: Sur e. Good mor ni ng, y our Honor .
16 Thank y ou. Todd Sol oway f r om Pr y or Cas hman. J us t
17 br i ef l y. I k now t her e' s a lot to go t hr ough t oday . Your
18 Honor ' s ques t i on s ugges t s s omet hi ng v er y i mpor t ant about a
19 c ont empt mot i on. I t has to be a v er y cl ear and c onc i se
20 or der and f ai l ur e to c ompl y wi th t he cl ear and c onc i se
21 l anguage of t he or der . Ther e' s no di s put i ng t hat y our
22 Honor or der ed her to be r ei ns t at ed. She was r ei ns t at ed.
23 I n f ac t , s he was r ei ns t at ed to t he poi nt wher e s he c an now
24 mak e al l t he demands t hat s he' s mak i ng f or i nf or mat i on.
25 Ther e was a lot of bac k and f or t h pr i or to our c omi ng i nt o
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1 t he c as e about whet her t hi s was jus t di s gui s ed as
2 di s c ov er y . I woul d s ubmi t to y ou, y our Honor , t hat t he
3 i t ems t hat t hey l is t ed as t he bas es f or t he c ont empt ar e
4 ac t ual l y not hi ng mor e t han an at t empt to us e t hi s c ont empt
5 as a c udgel to gat her inf or mat i on t hat t hey woul dn' t
6 ot her wi se be ent i tl ed t o, but whi ch we agr eed to gi ve
7 t hem, bec aus e I woul d s ubmi t, y our Honor , y ou' re goi ng to
8 s ee f r om us her e t hat t hi s is a bi g not hi ng i n t er ms of
9 t he i nf or mat i on and what t hey ar e cl ai mi ng has happened
10 her e, and we' re happy to pr ov i de i t. So we' ve been
11 pr ov i di ng i nf or mat i on. They l i s t ed t hat we' re not
12 per mi t t ed to c al l a s pec i al meet i ng. We' ve agr eed to hav e
13 a s pec i al meet i ng, and what we s ai d i s t hat we' ll do t hat ,
14 but y ou' re goi ng to hav e to gi ve us t he ques t i ons t wo
15 week s i n adv anc e. I don' t want to s how up i n a meet i ng
16 wher e i t' s goi ng to ev ol v e. I c oul d s ee what woul d happen
17 i n t hat ki nd of i mpr ompt u meet i ng. They s ai d we ar e not
18 al lowed to r ev i ew t he c ompani es ' book s and r ec or ds . We
19 pr ov i ded t wo r ounds of i nf or mat i on to t hem al r eady . Thi s
20 i s t he fi r st ti me I ' ve been i n c our t f or t wo and a hal f
21 y ear s . Ex c us e my ex c i t ement . They hav e been gi v en t wo
22 r ounds of book s and r ec or ds . The fi r st r ound t hey
23 c ompl ai ned t hat i t was dupl ic at i ve of doc ument s t hat had
24 been pr oduc ed, but we wer e at a di s adv ant age, bec aus e we
25 had y et to obt ai n t he li br ar y i nf or mat i on f r om t he Nor t on
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1 Ros e fi r m. I t s howed t wo t hi ngs . No. 1, we wer e
2 pr ov i di ng i nf or mat i on. No. 2, it was dupl i c at i ve of
3 di s c ov er y . No. 3, no one doubt s t hat t hos e wer e t he book s
4 and r ec or ds . No. 4, we' ve al so pr ov i ded f ur t her book s and
5 r ec or ds , and we' re c ont i nui ng to do t hat , and t hen t hey
6 s ai d t hey ' re pr ohi bi t ed f r om c ommuni c at i ng di r ec t l y wi th
7 Bi ll ur . That has pr ov en to be inc or r ec t . They ' ve emai led
8 her di r ec t l y as k i ng ques t i ons about what ' s happeni ng, i f
9 any t hi ng i s happeni ng. Qui te f r ank l y, y our Honor , t he
10 onl y t hi ng t hat i s r eal l y happeni ng wi th t hi s c ompany ,
11 ot her t han t he s al e of t he pr oper t y up i n Br onx v i l l e,
12 whi ch we wi l l r epor t to t hem as t hi ngs dev el op t hat ar e
13 mat er i al and nec es s ar y f or t hem to k now, i s t hi s
14 l i ti gat i on. So I woul d s ubmi t, y our Honor , t he or der was
15 her r ei ns t at ment . She was r ei ns t at ed. No one is
16 di s put i ng t hat . The l aw on c ont empt i s t hat i t has to be
17 a cl ear or der and a cl ear vi ol at i on of t he cl ear or der .
18 To y our Honor ' s ques t i on f r om bef or e, t her e was c ol or to
19 t hos e t hi ngs , and we c er t ai nl y ar e not l ook i ng to
20 under mi ne t he bas i s f or t he or der , and t hat ' s why t he
21 i nf or mat i on is bei ng pr ov i ded, and I woul d j us t si mpl y
22 s ubmi t, y our Honor , t her e was nev er c ont empt i n t he fi r st
23 pl ac e, and t he c ont empt mot i on i s bei ng us ed as an ef f or t
24 to try to gat her inf or mat i on whi ch we' re happy to gi v e,
25 bec aus e t hey ar e goi ng to get t hat i n di s c ov er y any way .
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1 THE COURT: I ' m not goi ng to go i nt o what t he
2 r at i onal e f or t he mot i on was . Thi s c as e has been
3 c har ac t er i z ed by , I woul d s ay , an ov er ex uber anc e of
4 mot i on pr ac t i c e. Thi s mot i on is deni ed. The s ubs t anc e of
5 t hi s mot i on is not r eal l y a c ont empt mot i on. At l eas t i t
6 s eems to me t hat t he or der was c ompl i ed wi th by
7 r ei ns t at i ng t he Pl ai nt i ff as di r ec t or and of f i c er , and to
8 t he ex t ent t hat Def endant s hav e engaged i n ac t i ons t hat
9 enc r oac h on Pl ai nt i ff' s ri ght as a di r ec t or goi ng f or war d
10 or f r om her ins t at ement , t hen t hat ' s a ques t i on of whet her
11 t hey vi ol at ed t he by - l aws or ot her appl i c abl e c or por at e
12 l aw, not any t hi ng i n my or der . My or der was not a
13 r egul at or y or der s et t i ng f or t h ex ac t l y how t hi ngs s houl d
14 go. No one s houl d t ak e t hi s as me bl es s i ng what ev er has
15 gone on, but t hi s i s not a c ont empt si t uat i on. I t c an' t
16 be t he si t uat i on t hat any t i me an ac t i on i s t ak en t he
17 Pl ai nt i ffs -- t hat af f ec t s Pl ai nt i ff' s r ol e as a di r ec t or
18 i s a c ont i nui ng vi ol at i on of t he or der r ei ns t at i ng her . I
19 under s t and t he poi nt of i t. Par t of t hi s was pr obabl y
20 about di s c ov er y . Par t of t hi s was pr obabl y about
21 educ at i ng me as to what i s goi ng on, and par t of i t, no
22 doubt , was j us t about t or t ur i ng t he ot her si de whi ch s eems
23 to me to be one of t he c ommon t hemes among t he mot i ons
24 goi ng on t oday , but i n any ev ent , t he mot i on i s deni ed.
25 To t he ex t ent mor e c ol or i s nec es s ar y , any c onduc t s uc h as
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1 l oc k i ng peopl e out of t he of f i ce or ot her nons ens e l ike
2 t hat i s goi ng to be ex t r emel y c ount er pr oduc t i v e. Per haps ,
3 wi th ne w c ouns el in pl ac e may be t her e' s a new day goi ng
4 on, but none of what I r ead made me t er r i bl y ent hus i as t i c
5 about how Ms . Tek i ner was wel c omed bac k to t he c ompany ,
6 but i t' s not c ont empt ; so t hat mot i on i s deni ed.
7 L et ' s mov e on to No. 22 whi ch i s t he fi r st of
8 t wo di s c ov er y mot i ons , I bel i ev e. Thi s i s t he Yas emi n
9 Tek i ner ' s mot i on to c ompel and a c r os s mot i on f or a
10 pr ot ec t i ve or der and wher e I s ee I ' ve been gi v en t he
11 oppor t uni ty to r ev i ew al mos t 1 0, 000 doc ument s i n c amer a
12 whi ch I 'm l ook i ng f or war d t o. Who want s to go fi r st ?
13 MR. PARKE R: So, y our Honor , t hi s i s our
14 cl ient ' s mot i on f or t he pr oduc t i on of doc ument s t hat ar e
15 s ubj ec t to t he fi duc i ar y ex c ept i on to t he at t or ney / c l i ent
16 pr i vi l ege.
17 THE COURT: I want -- I ' ve r ead t he paper s . I
18 want to get a s ens e f or what , may be y ou don' t k now, what
19 t hes e doc ument s ar e, bec aus e i n vi ewi ng al l of t hes e
20 ex c ept i ons and t he l i k e, y ou k now, doc ument s t hat may be
21 pr i vi l eged t hat r el at e to t he bus i nes s of t he c ompany ,
22 r eal es t at e cl os i ngs and t he l i k e, t hat s eems to me to be
23 a f ai rl y eas y c at egor y . Doc ument s wher e t hey ar e
24 di s c us s ing t he cl ai ms br ought by y our cl i ent , may be t hat ' s
25 at t he ot her ex t r eme wher e t he adv er s i ty ex c ept i on to t he
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1 ex c ept i on mi ght appl y, but what -- I mean, I k now t her e' s
2 t hi s whol e c ol or c oded t hi ng, and i t' s v er y har d f or me to
3 get t hr ough al l of t hi s j us t wi th my s el f and Ms . Kl i nger
4 ov er her e; so why don' t y ou j us t gi ve me t he c at egor i es a
5 l i ttl e mor e cl ear l y.
6 MR. PARKE R: Sur e, y our Honor . Wel l , par t of
7 t he pr obl em, of c our s e, i s we c an' t -- ot her t han t he
8 des c r i pt i on t hat we hav e been pr ov i ded, we c an' t t el l what
9 t hes e doc ument s ar e, but bas ed upon t he des c r i pt i ons t hat
10 we' ve s een, it al l s eems to r el at e to i s s ues , s uc h as ,
11 fi nanc e, ac c ount i ng, as s et management , management of t he
12 t r us t . I mean --
13 THE COURT: So t hat i s anot her ques t i on I had.
14 MR. PARKE R: Yes .
15 THE COURT: Ar e t hes e doc ument s t hat ar e
16 pr i vi l eged i n c onnec t i on wi th t he t r us t or t he c ompany or
17 bot h?
18 MR. PARKE R: I t c oul d be bot h. Agai n, it c an' t
19 be det er mi ned whi ch i s, agai n, why we go bac k to t he i n
20 c amer a r eques t , but t hat ' s why we t hi nk t he fi duc i ar y
21 ex c ept i on appl i es , bec aus e Yas emi n i s ac t ual l y t he cl i ent .
22 She' s t he benef i ci ar y . The fi duc i ar i es ar e Ber r i n and
23 Bi ll ur . So t hat ' s why t he fi duc i ar y ex c ept i on ex i st s.
24 THE COURT: Ex c ept in so f ar as i t' s about t he
25 di s put e. I agr ee wi th y ou. I hav e r ead t hr ough al l of
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1 t hos e c as es , and y ou k now, t he ex c ept i on to t he fi duc i ar y
2 r ul e, whi ch onl y appl i es i n c er t ai n ci r c ums t anc es to begi n
3 wi t h, i s i f t her e' s a di s put e wi th t he fi duc i ar y , and t he
4 fi duc i ar y i s s eek i ng c ouns el to try to fi gur e out what hi s
5 or her obl i gat i ons ar e, and t her e y ou c an s ee why t hat --
6 i n t hat adv er s ar i al c ont ex t t hat mi ght be pr i vi leged, but
7 i t s eems to me t hos e s houl d be r el at i v el y s t r ai ght f or war d
8 to i dent i f y. That ' s t he ones t hat I fi nd mos t c ompel l i ng
9 i n t er ms of wi t hhol di ng t hem i s, obv i ous l y, been, y ou
10 k now, s ome v er y s pec i fi c l egal di s put es among t hes e
11 par t i es , and c ommuni c at i ons about t hat I t hi nk I hav e
12 i ndi c at ed per i odi c al l y c oul d be pr ot ec t ed, but t he r es t of
13 i t I j us t don' t get .
14 MR. PARKE R: You don' t get i n t er ms --
15 THE COURT: I ' m goi ng to be c ur i ous to s ee what
16 t he Def endant s ' ar gument f or pr i vi l ege i s ins of ar as i t
17 r el at es to a per s on who i s a di r ec t or of a c or por at i on
18 wi th r es pec t to c or por at e mat t er s and i ns of ar as i t' s a
19 l i ttl e les s obv i ous to me i f i t' s about t hi ngs t hat t he
20 t r us t ee i s doi ng f or t he benef i ci ar y t r ans ac t i on or
21 what ev er , t hat woul d s eem al so not to be s ec r et f r om t he
22 benef i ci ar y , and it s eems to me jus t put t i ng t hem i nt o
23 t hos e t wo pi les , in my opi ni on, is t he mai n t hi ng, i s what
24 r el at es to t hi s l iti gat i on and s ur r oundi ng di s put es and
25 what does not .
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1 MR. PARKE R: And as we not ed, y our Honor , y ou
2 k now, we don' t bel i ev e t hat t he adv er s ar i al ex c ept i on
3 woul d appl y to any t hi ng pr i or to t he laws ui t ac t ual l y
4 bei ng fi l ed. We under s t and t hat -- we under s t and t hat
5 Def endant s ' pos i ti on i s t hat , per haps , f or a per i od wher e
6 Yas emi n was t er mi nat ed and t hen r ei ns t at ed i t mi ght , but
7 ev en t hen
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FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 EXHIBIT 13 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 1 1 SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK COUNTY OF NEW YORK - CI VI L TERM: PART 3 2 --------------------------------------------X YASEMI N TEKI NER, 3 i n her indi vi dual c apac i t y, as a 4 benef i ci ar y and a Tr us t ee of t he Yas emi n Tek i ner 201 1 Des c endant s 5 Tr us t and der i v at i v el y as a hol der I NDEX NO. of equi t abl e i nt er es t s i n a 6571 93/ 2020 6 s har ehol der or a member of t he Company Def endant s , 7 Pl ai nt i ff. 8 - agai ns t - 9 BREMEN HOUSE I NC. , BREMEN HOUSE TEXAS, 10 I NC. , GERMAN NEWS COMPANY, INC. , GERMAN NEWS TEXAS, INC. , 254- 258 W. 35TH ST. L L C, 11 BERRI N TEKI NER, GONCA TEKI NER, and BI L L UR AKI PECK, i n her c apac i ty as a 12 Tr us t ee of The Yas emi n Tek i ner 201 1 Des c endant s Tr us t 13 Def endant s . 14 --------------------------------------------X ZEYNEP TEKI NER, 15 i n her indi vi dual c apac i t y, as a 16 benef i ci ar y and a Tr us t ee of t he Zey nep Tek i ner 201 1 Des c endant s Tr us t 17 and der i v at i v el y as a hol der of equi t abl e i nt er es t s i n a s har ehol der 18 or a member of t he Company Def endant s , 19 I nt er v enor - Pl ai nt i ff, 20 - agai ns t - 21 BREMEN HOUSE I NC. , BREMEN HOUSE TEXAS, I NC. , GERMAN NEWS COMPANY, INC. , GERMAN 22 NEWS TEXAS, INC. , 254- 258 W. 35TH ST. L L C, BERRI N TEKI NER, GONCA TEKI NER, and 23 BI L L UR AKI PECK, i n her c apac i ty as a Tr us t ee of The Yas emi n Tek i ner 201 1 24 Des c endant s Tr us t , 25 Def endant s . --------------------------------------------X Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 2 1 60 Cent r e St r eet - Room 208 2 New Yor k , New Yor k Augus t 1 5, 2022 3 B E F O R E: 4 THE HONORABL E J OEL M. COHEN, J us t i ce 5 6 A P P E A R A N C E S: 7 PARKER, I BRAHI M& BERG LLC At t or ney s f or Pl ai nt i ff Yas emi n Tek i ner 8 270 Dav i ds on Av enue - Sui te 600 Somer s et , New J er s ey 08873 9 BY: SCOTT PARKER, ESQ. BY: SANJ AY IBRAHI M, ESQ. 10 11 KAHN & GOL DBERG LLP At t or ney s f or Pl ai nt i ff Zey nep Tek i ner 12 555 Fi fth Av enue - 11th Fl oor New Yor k , New Yor k 1 001 7 13 BY: MI CHEL E KAHN, ESQ. 14 F OL EY HOAG LLP ( Appear i ng vi r t ual l y) 15 At t or ney s f or t he Pl ai nt i ffs 1 301 Av enue of t he Amer i c as - 25t h Fl oor 16 New Yor k , New Yor k 1 001 9 BY: STEPHEN P. YOUNGER, ESQ. 17 18 PRYOR CASHMAN LLP 19 At t or ney s f or t he Def endant s 7 Ti mes Squar e 20 New Yor k , New Yor k 1 0036 BY: TODD E. SOL OWAY, ESQ. 21 BY: MEGHAN E. HI LL, ESQ. BY: BRYAN T. MOHL ER, ESQ. 22 23 Wi ll i am Car denut o 24 Seni or Cour t Repor t er 25 Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 3 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 THE COURT: Good mor ni ng, ev er y one. L et ' s s t ar t 2 wi th appear anc es begi nni ng wi th t he Pl ai nt i f f s. 3 MR. I BRAHI M: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . 4 THE COURT: We hav e to t ur n t he mi cs on whenev er 5 we' re t al ki ng. Ot her wi s e, Mr . Younger won' t hear us . 6 MR. I BRAHI M: Good mor ni ng. Sanj ay Ibr ahi m f r om 7 Par k er , I br ahi m, and Ber g, on behal f of t he Pl ai nt i ff, 8 Yas emi n Tek i ner . 9 MR. PARKE R: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . Sc ot t 10 Par k er al so f r om Par k er , I br ahi m, and Ber g. 11 MS . KAHN: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . Mi c hel l e 12 Kahn -- I ' m s or r y , St ephen. Go ahead. 13 MR. YOUNGER: St ephen Younger f r om F ol ey Hoag on 14 behal f of Pl ai nt i ffs as wel l. 15 MS . KAHN: Good mor ni ng, agai n, y our Honor . 16 Mi c hel l e Kahn, Kahn and Gol dber g f or Pl ai nt i ff Zey nep 17 Tek i ner . 18 MR. S OL OWAY: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . Todd 19 Sol oway . 20 THE COURT: I s t hat on? 21 MR. S OL OWAY: Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . Todd 22 Sol oway wi th my c ol l eagues , Br i an Mohl er and Meghan Hi l l , 23 f or t he Def endant s who I hav e her e, y our Honor . I hav e 24 Ber r i n Tek i ner ; Gonc a Tek i ner i s i n t he bac k as wel l ; 25 Bi ll ur Ak i pec k i s nex t to her as wel l as t hei r s pous es Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 4 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 Dav i d and Gur er . 2 THE COURT: Good mor ni ng, ev er y one. We hav e a 3 l ot to get t hr ough t oday . I s aw s ome c or r es pondenc e about 4 adj our ni ng t he ol des t of t he mot i ons , Mot i on 21 , f or 5 c ont empt whi ch I am not goi ng to do. I t hi nk t he paper s 6 ar e pr et t y s t r ai ght f or war d, but i f t he Pl ai nt i ff want s to 7 r es t at e i t br i ef l y and t hen we c an mov e on. 8 MR. PARKE R: One s ec ond, y our Honor . 9 THE COURT: We' re goi ng to hav e to be 10 ex t r aor di nar i l y ef f i ci ent t oday . We hav e a l ot to do. 11 That mi c r ophone does n' t s ound l i ke i t' s on ei t her . To 12 mak e t hi ngs mor e c ompl ic at ed, i f y ou c an t ur n of f t he des k 13 mi cs as wel l . That wi ll hel p. 14 MR. PARKE R: Your Honor , I' l l k eep t hi s 15 ex t r emel y br i ef . Wi th r es pec t to t he c ont empt mot i on, 16 we' ve met al l t he f our el ement s t hat ar e r equi r ed f or t he 17 mot i on. We hav e been negot i at i ng wi th Def endant s ' c ouns el 18 wi th r es pec t to t r yi ng to r es ol ve t he i s s ues t hat hav e 19 been r ai s ed in t he c ont empt mot i on whi ch i s why we wer e 20 s eek i ng to adj our n i t. We had an agr eement wher e t hey 21 wer e to goi ng to pr oduc e c er t ai n doc ument s , wher e t hey 22 woul d s t ar t inv ol vi ng our cl i ent wi th c ompany af f ai r s, and 23 wher e t hey woul d hol d a s pec i al meet i ng pur s uant to t he 24 by - l aws , t hat t hat agr eement c ont i nues to go on, but i n 25 t he meanwhi l e, we woul d s ugges t t hat f or al l t he r eas ons Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 5 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 i n our paper s c ont empt i s appr opr i at e, bec aus e t he pr i mar y 2 i s s ue t hat t hey r ai s ed i n oppos i ti on in a let t er to y our 3 Honor l as t ni ght is we' re pr oduc i ng t he doc ument s , and 4 i t' s bl ac k l et t er l aw t hat y ou c an' t c ur e y our c ont empt 5 af t er t he c ont empt has oc c ur r ed. Whi l e we ar e hopef ul 6 t hat we may be abl e to r es ol ve i t, whi ch i s agai n why we 7 s ought to adj our n, i t does n' t mat t er f or pur pos es of t he 8 c ont empt mot i on. They ar e i n c ont empt . 9 THE COURT: What ' s t he par t i c ul ar par t s of t he 10 or der wi th s pec i fi ci t y? 11 MR. PARKE R: She was r ei ns t at ed as an of f i c er 12 and di r ec t or , y our Honor . I bel i ev e y our Honor made i t 13 cl ear at t he hear i ng on Apr i l 1 8t h t hat s he was to be 14 f ul l y i ns t at ed i n her pos i ti ons , and t he c ompany was to 15 r es ume its nor mal bus i nes s pr ac t i c es , and up to t he poi nt 16 we fi l ed t he mot i on, Def endant s hav e not done t hat . They 17 hav e not i nv ol v ed Yas emi n i n any meet i ngs . They hav e 18 not -- 19 THE COURT: J us t r emi nd me. What ar e t he wor ds 20 of t he ac t ual wr i t t en or der ? 21 MR. PARKE R: I don' t hav e t he or der i n f r ont of 22 me, y our Honor . 23 THE COURT: Ok ay . But -- 24 MR. PARKE R: Yes . And none of t hos e t hi ngs -- 25 THE COURT: The t hr us t was t hat s he be Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 6 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 r ei ns t at ed as an of f i c er and di r ec t or . 2 MR. PARKE R: Ex ac t l y ri ght , y our Honor , and be 3 abl e to par t i ci pat e and hav e a s ay . I t hi nk y our Honor 4 par t i c ul ar l y s ai d s he' s goi ng to hav e a s ay on how t hi s 5 bus i nes s i s r un. 6 THE COURT: I under s t and v ar i ous t hi ngs I s ay 7 dur i ng hear i ngs whi ch add c ol or , per haps , but t hi s i s a 8 c ont empt mot i on. The ques t i on i s what does t he or der s ay ? 9 MR. PARKE R: Yes , y our Honor . Under s t ood. 10 THE COURT: L et me hear f r om t he def ens e. 11 MR. S OL OWAY: Twof ol d, y our Honor . Do y ou want 12 me to go t her e? 13 THE COURT: I t' s eas i er f or me and t he 14 r epor t er . 15 MR. S OL OWAY: Sur e. Good mor ni ng, y our Honor . 16 Thank y ou. Todd Sol oway f r om Pr y or Cas hman. J us t 17 br i ef l y. I k now t her e' s a lot to go t hr ough t oday . Your 18 Honor ' s ques t i on s ugges t s s omet hi ng v er y i mpor t ant about a 19 c ont empt mot i on. I t has to be a v er y cl ear and c onc i se 20 or der and f ai l ur e to c ompl y wi th t he cl ear and c onc i se 21 l anguage of t he or der . Ther e' s no di s put i ng t hat y our 22 Honor or der ed her to be r ei ns t at ed. She was r ei ns t at ed. 23 I n f ac t , s he was r ei ns t at ed to t he poi nt wher e s he c an now 24 mak e al l t he demands t hat s he' s mak i ng f or i nf or mat i on. 25 Ther e was a lot of bac k and f or t h pr i or to our c omi ng i nt o Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 7 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 t he c as e about whet her t hi s was jus t di s gui s ed as 2 di s c ov er y . I woul d s ubmi t to y ou, y our Honor , t hat t he 3 i t ems t hat t hey l is t ed as t he bas es f or t he c ont empt ar e 4 ac t ual l y not hi ng mor e t han an at t empt to us e t hi s c ont empt 5 as a c udgel to gat her inf or mat i on t hat t hey woul dn' t 6 ot her wi se be ent i tl ed t o, but whi ch we agr eed to gi ve 7 t hem, bec aus e I woul d s ubmi t, y our Honor , y ou' re goi ng to 8 s ee f r om us her e t hat t hi s is a bi g not hi ng i n t er ms of 9 t he i nf or mat i on and what t hey ar e cl ai mi ng has happened 10 her e, and we' re happy to pr ov i de i t. So we' ve been 11 pr ov i di ng i nf or mat i on. They l i s t ed t hat we' re not 12 per mi t t ed to c al l a s pec i al meet i ng. We' ve agr eed to hav e 13 a s pec i al meet i ng, and what we s ai d i s t hat we' ll do t hat , 14 but y ou' re goi ng to hav e to gi ve us t he ques t i ons t wo 15 week s i n adv anc e. I don' t want to s how up i n a meet i ng 16 wher e i t' s goi ng to ev ol v e. I c oul d s ee what woul d happen 17 i n t hat ki nd of i mpr ompt u meet i ng. They s ai d we ar e not 18 al lowed to r ev i ew t he c ompani es ' book s and r ec or ds . We 19 pr ov i ded t wo r ounds of i nf or mat i on to t hem al r eady . Thi s 20 i s t he fi r st ti me I ' ve been i n c our t f or t wo and a hal f 21 y ear s . Ex c us e my ex c i t ement . They hav e been gi v en t wo 22 r ounds of book s and r ec or ds . The fi r st r ound t hey 23 c ompl ai ned t hat i t was dupl ic at i ve of doc ument s t hat had 24 been pr oduc ed, but we wer e at a di s adv ant age, bec aus e we 25 had y et to obt ai n t he li br ar y i nf or mat i on f r om t he Nor t on Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 8 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 Ros e fi r m. I t s howed t wo t hi ngs . No. 1, we wer e 2 pr ov i di ng i nf or mat i on. No. 2, it was dupl i c at i ve of 3 di s c ov er y . No. 3, no one doubt s t hat t hos e wer e t he book s 4 and r ec or ds . No. 4, we' ve al so pr ov i ded f ur t her book s and 5 r ec or ds , and we' re c ont i nui ng to do t hat , and t hen t hey 6 s ai d t hey ' re pr ohi bi t ed f r om c ommuni c at i ng di r ec t l y wi th 7 Bi ll ur . That has pr ov en to be inc or r ec t . They ' ve emai led 8 her di r ec t l y as k i ng ques t i ons about what ' s happeni ng, i f 9 any t hi ng i s happeni ng. Qui te f r ank l y, y our Honor , t he 10 onl y t hi ng t hat i s r eal l y happeni ng wi th t hi s c ompany , 11 ot her t han t he s al e of t he pr oper t y up i n Br onx v i l l e, 12 whi ch we wi l l r epor t to t hem as t hi ngs dev el op t hat ar e 13 mat er i al and nec es s ar y f or t hem to k now, i s t hi s 14 l i ti gat i on. So I woul d s ubmi t, y our Honor , t he or der was 15 her r ei ns t at ment . She was r ei ns t at ed. No one is 16 di s put i ng t hat . The l aw on c ont empt i s t hat i t has to be 17 a cl ear or der and a cl ear vi ol at i on of t he cl ear or der . 18 To y our Honor ' s ques t i on f r om bef or e, t her e was c ol or to 19 t hos e t hi ngs , and we c er t ai nl y ar e not l ook i ng to 20 under mi ne t he bas i s f or t he or der , and t hat ' s why t he 21 i nf or mat i on is bei ng pr ov i ded, and I woul d j us t si mpl y 22 s ubmi t, y our Honor , t her e was nev er c ont empt i n t he fi r st 23 pl ac e, and t he c ont empt mot i on i s bei ng us ed as an ef f or t 24 to try to gat her inf or mat i on whi ch we' re happy to gi v e, 25 bec aus e t hey ar e goi ng to get t hat i n di s c ov er y any way . Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 9 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 THE COURT: I ' m not goi ng to go i nt o what t he 2 r at i onal e f or t he mot i on was . Thi s c as e has been 3 c har ac t er i z ed by , I woul d s ay , an ov er ex uber anc e of 4 mot i on pr ac t i c e. Thi s mot i on is deni ed. The s ubs t anc e of 5 t hi s mot i on is not r eal l y a c ont empt mot i on. At l eas t i t 6 s eems to me t hat t he or der was c ompl i ed wi th by 7 r ei ns t at i ng t he Pl ai nt i ff as di r ec t or and of f i c er , and to 8 t he ex t ent t hat Def endant s hav e engaged i n ac t i ons t hat 9 enc r oac h on Pl ai nt i ff' s ri ght as a di r ec t or goi ng f or war d 10 or f r om her ins t at ement , t hen t hat ' s a ques t i on of whet her 11 t hey vi ol at ed t he by - l aws or ot her appl i c abl e c or por at e 12 l aw, not any t hi ng i n my or der . My or der was not a 13 r egul at or y or der s et t i ng f or t h ex ac t l y how t hi ngs s houl d 14 go. No one s houl d t ak e t hi s as me bl es s i ng what ev er has 15 gone on, but t hi s i s not a c ont empt si t uat i on. I t c an' t 16 be t he si t uat i on t hat any t i me an ac t i on i s t ak en t he 17 Pl ai nt i ffs -- t hat af f ec t s Pl ai nt i ff' s r ol e as a di r ec t or 18 i s a c ont i nui ng vi ol at i on of t he or der r ei ns t at i ng her . I 19 under s t and t he poi nt of i t. Par t of t hi s was pr obabl y 20 about di s c ov er y . Par t of t hi s was pr obabl y about 21 educ at i ng me as to what i s goi ng on, and par t of i t, no 22 doubt , was j us t about t or t ur i ng t he ot her si de whi ch s eems 23 to me to be one of t he c ommon t hemes among t he mot i ons 24 goi ng on t oday , but i n any ev ent , t he mot i on i s deni ed. 25 To t he ex t ent mor e c ol or i s nec es s ar y , any c onduc t s uc h as Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 10 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 l oc k i ng peopl e out of t he of f i ce or ot her nons ens e l ike 2 t hat i s goi ng to be ex t r emel y c ount er pr oduc t i v e. Per haps , 3 wi th ne w c ouns el in pl ac e may be t her e' s a new day goi ng 4 on, but none of what I r ead made me t er r i bl y ent hus i as t i c 5 about how Ms . Tek i ner was wel c omed bac k to t he c ompany , 6 but i t' s not c ont empt ; so t hat mot i on i s deni ed. 7 L et ' s mov e on to No. 22 whi ch i s t he fi r st of 8 t wo di s c ov er y mot i ons , I bel i ev e. Thi s i s t he Yas emi n 9 Tek i ner ' s mot i on to c ompel and a c r os s mot i on f or a 10 pr ot ec t i ve or der and wher e I s ee I ' ve been gi v en t he 11 oppor t uni ty to r ev i ew al mos t 1 0, 000 doc ument s i n c amer a 12 whi ch I 'm l ook i ng f or war d t o. Who want s to go fi r st ? 13 MR. PARKE R: So, y our Honor , t hi s i s our 14 cl ient ' s mot i on f or t he pr oduc t i on of doc ument s t hat ar e 15 s ubj ec t to t he fi duc i ar y ex c ept i on to t he at t or ney / c l i ent 16 pr i vi l ege. 17 THE COURT: I want -- I ' ve r ead t he paper s . I 18 want to get a s ens e f or what , may be y ou don' t k now, what 19 t hes e doc ument s ar e, bec aus e i n vi ewi ng al l of t hes e 20 ex c ept i ons and t he l i k e, y ou k now, doc ument s t hat may be 21 pr i vi l eged t hat r el at e to t he bus i nes s of t he c ompany , 22 r eal es t at e cl os i ngs and t he l i k e, t hat s eems to me to be 23 a f ai rl y eas y c at egor y . Doc ument s wher e t hey ar e 24 di s c us s ing t he cl ai ms br ought by y our cl i ent , may be t hat ' s 25 at t he ot her ex t r eme wher e t he adv er s i ty ex c ept i on to t he Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 11 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 ex c ept i on mi ght appl y, but what -- I mean, I k now t her e' s 2 t hi s whol e c ol or c oded t hi ng, and i t' s v er y har d f or me to 3 get t hr ough al l of t hi s j us t wi th my s el f and Ms . Kl i nger 4 ov er her e; so why don' t y ou j us t gi ve me t he c at egor i es a 5 l i ttl e mor e cl ear l y. 6 MR. PARKE R: Sur e, y our Honor . Wel l , par t of 7 t he pr obl em, of c our s e, i s we c an' t -- ot her t han t he 8 des c r i pt i on t hat we hav e been pr ov i ded, we c an' t t el l what 9 t hes e doc ument s ar e, but bas ed upon t he des c r i pt i ons t hat 10 we' ve s een, it al l s eems to r el at e to i s s ues , s uc h as , 11 fi nanc e, ac c ount i ng, as s et management , management of t he 12 t r us t . I mean -- 13 THE COURT: So t hat i s anot her ques t i on I had. 14 MR. PARKE R: Yes . 15 THE COURT: Ar e t hes e doc ument s t hat ar e 16 pr i vi l eged i n c onnec t i on wi th t he t r us t or t he c ompany or 17 bot h? 18 MR. PARKE R: I t c oul d be bot h. Agai n, it c an' t 19 be det er mi ned whi ch i s, agai n, why we go bac k to t he i n 20 c amer a r eques t , but t hat ' s why we t hi nk t he fi duc i ar y 21 ex c ept i on appl i es , bec aus e Yas emi n i s ac t ual l y t he cl i ent . 22 She' s t he benef i ci ar y . The fi duc i ar i es ar e Ber r i n and 23 Bi ll ur . So t hat ' s why t he fi duc i ar y ex c ept i on ex i st s. 24 THE COURT: Ex c ept in so f ar as i t' s about t he 25 di s put e. I agr ee wi th y ou. I hav e r ead t hr ough al l of Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 12 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 t hos e c as es , and y ou k now, t he ex c ept i on to t he fi duc i ar y 2 r ul e, whi ch onl y appl i es i n c er t ai n ci r c ums t anc es to begi n 3 wi t h, i s i f t her e' s a di s put e wi th t he fi duc i ar y , and t he 4 fi duc i ar y i s s eek i ng c ouns el to try to fi gur e out what hi s 5 or her obl i gat i ons ar e, and t her e y ou c an s ee why t hat -- 6 i n t hat adv er s ar i al c ont ex t t hat mi ght be pr i vi leged, but 7 i t s eems to me t hos e s houl d be r el at i v el y s t r ai ght f or war d 8 to i dent i f y. That ' s t he ones t hat I fi nd mos t c ompel l i ng 9 i n t er ms of wi t hhol di ng t hem i s, obv i ous l y, been, y ou 10 k now, s ome v er y s pec i fi c l egal di s put es among t hes e 11 par t i es , and c ommuni c at i ons about t hat I t hi nk I hav e 12 i ndi c at ed per i odi c al l y c oul d be pr ot ec t ed, but t he r es t of 13 i t I j us t don' t get . 14 MR. PARKE R: You don' t get i n t er ms -- 15 THE COURT: I ' m goi ng to be c ur i ous to s ee what 16 t he Def endant s ' ar gument f or pr i vi l ege i s ins of ar as i t 17 r el at es to a per s on who i s a di r ec t or of a c or por at i on 18 wi th r es pec t to c or por at e mat t er s and i ns of ar as i t' s a 19 l i ttl e les s obv i ous to me i f i t' s about t hi ngs t hat t he 20 t r us t ee i s doi ng f or t he benef i ci ar y t r ans ac t i on or 21 what ev er , t hat woul d s eem al so not to be s ec r et f r om t he 22 benef i ci ar y , and it s eems to me jus t put t i ng t hem i nt o 23 t hos e t wo pi les , in my opi ni on, is t he mai n t hi ng, i s what 24 r el at es to t hi s l iti gat i on and s ur r oundi ng di s put es and 25 what does not . Wi l li a m Ca r de nut o, CS R, Of f i ci al Cour t Re por t e r FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 01/31/2023 03:24 AM INDEX NO. 657193/2020 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 1145 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 01/31/2023 13 - Pr oc e edi ngs - 1 MR. PARKE R: And as we not ed, y our Honor , y ou 2 k now, we don' t bel i ev e t hat t he adv er s ar i al ex c ept i on 3 woul d appl y to any t hi ng pr i or to t he laws ui t ac t ual l y 4 bei ng fi l ed. We under s t and t hat -- we under s t and t hat 5 Def endant s ' pos i ti on i s t hat , per haps , f or a per i od wher e 6 Yas emi n was t er mi nat ed and t hen r ei ns t at ed i t mi ght , but 7 ev en t hen