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Defendants Response to Plaintiffs’ MSJ J OHN D. KINARD - District Clerk
Galveston County, Texas
CORPORATE REPRESENTATIVE OF WIMBISH KELLY CONSTRUCTION D/B/A PUTNAM BUEi®I2IRE
No. 60622929
KATHLEEN WIMBISH - 6/15/2021 By: Shailja Dixit
1/7/2022 4:28 PM
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CAUSE NO 20-CV-1704
RAYMOND D. JETT AND SUE E. ) IN THE DISTRICT COURT OF
JETT, INDIVIDUALLY AND AS
TRUSTEE OF THE SPARKS
FAMILY LIVING TRUST,
Plaintiffs,
vs. GALVESTON COUNTY, TEXAS
WIMBISH KELLY CONSTRUCTION,
LLC D/B/A PUTNAM BUILDERS,
Defendant . 122ND JUDICIAL DISTRICT
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June 15, 2021
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Q Okay. Did he -- if there was any questions or
any negotiation involved, was he involving you in that
process, or did he have authority to sort of make
changes and make decisions?
A No, he would involve either Rob or I.
Q Okay. And if we scroll to the bottom of this
contract, I think it's around page 13, and maybe go up
-- oh, yeah, here, this is the right page. And I see
that the individual who signed on behalf of Putnam
10 Builders is David Norcross.
11 I mean, was that typical for him to be
12 signing the contracts on behalf of Putnam? What exactly
13 was his role?
14 A So he's a job site superintendent, and I asked
15 him to sign that contract.
16 Q Okay. So it's kind of a -- that's not usually
17 something that falls under his job description?
18 A Not normally.
19 Q Okay. How long was David Norcross employed
20 with Putnam and/or ILCOR?
21 A I want to say about four years.
22 Q And I guess, was he also a leased employee?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And going back to the top of that contract, do
25 you -- do you know if -- where Bubba is employed now?
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I do not.
Okay. Do you have any contact information for
him?
I do.
You do? Do you have a phone number for him?
I do.
Okay. Do you have an e-mail address for him?
A I think I do. I'd have to check.
Q Have you been in contact with him since his
10 employment ended at Putnam?
11 A Yes.
12 Q Okay. When is the last time that you were in
13 contact with him?
14 A Probably three or four weeks ago.
15 Q Okay. Do you have a current address for him?
16 A That, I don't.
17 Q Okay. When you talked to him three or
18 four weeks ago, was that just on the phone or in person?
19 How did that communication come about?
20 A It was on the phone.
21 Q Okay. Was it about this lawsuit?
22 Yes, it was.
23 Okay. What did you talk about with him?
24 Talked about things that he remembered.
25 Okay. What did he remember?
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A He remembered meeting on the job site with Ray
Jett and Ventura Berrones, the concrete guy, and
discussing the location of the slab and the height of
the slab to avoid trees.
Q Okay. Did you -- as part of the discovery in
this case, did you ask Bubba if he had any text
messages, communications, e-mails with you or with the
Jetts regarding issues in this suit?
A I did.
10 Q And did he send you any information?
11 A He doesn't have that phone anymore.
12 Q Okay. So the text messages that he would have
13 had have been lost because he has a new phone?
14 A Correct.
15 Q Okay. But he did -- and I'm looking at this
16 e-mail at the top of this.
17 He did have an e-mail account with Putnam
18 Builders, correct?
19 A Correct.
20 Q And has -- have you, you know, searched that
21 e-mail account for any e-mails associated relating to
22 the issues in this suit?
23 A I don't know how to get to it.
24 Q Do you have access to that e-mail account?
25 I do not.
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you need to know so you can quote a price before you're
obligating Putnam to build a house, correct?
MR. HARRIS: Objection, form.
Q (BY MS. SPEER) Do you typically want to know
the cost of the project before you sign the contract?
A Yes, ma'am.
Q Okay. And so how do you -- I mean, do you --
is it aH is there ever a time where you will know the
cost before the construction drawings have been
10 finalized?
121 A No, not usually.
12 Q Okay. And if we -- let me see which -- in that
13 same paragraph that we have blown up right here, it's
14 the third sentence. It says, "Putnam Builders shall
15 verify the accuracy of all dimensions, clearances shown
16 on the plans and specifications before completing the
17 effective work and shall notify the owner of any
18 discrepancies between the plans and specifications in
19 the existing conditions discovered by Putnam Builders."
20 So talking about the Jetts' project
21 specifically, did Putnam Builders ever notify them of
22 any discrepancies between the actual construction, the
23 actual conditions, and the plans?
24 A I believe that's why Bubba met with Ray Jett
25 and the concrete guy on-site, to discuss the location of
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the slab and the height.
Q Okay. And do you recall when that meeting
occurred?
A It was obviously before they poured the slab.
Q Okay. And we'll go through some documents
later on that kind of go through exactly when that
happened.
But is there any -- was there ever any
written notification of this -- the need to change the
10 slab height that was provided to the Jetts?
11 A No, and there are several things that changed
12 that there's no written notification of.
13 Q For the Jetts' project?
14 A For the Jetts' project and any project.
15 Q Okay. Can you -- for the Jetts' project, what
16 were some of those things?
17 A In the master bathroom, initially, there were
18 two pedestal sinks, and Ms. Jett changed her mind after
19 the plumbing was in and the electrical was in, to doa
20 freestanding double sink unit.
a1 Q Okay. Was that -- did that make the project --
22 was that an increase in cost or a decrease in cost?
23 A We didn't charge them anything extra for it.
24 We just moved the plumbing for it.
25 Q Did it cost Putnam additional?
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couple of weeks after the contract was signed, correct?
A Correct.
Q Do you recall what changes were made between
the version of the plans we were just looking at and
this, the version that's dated after the contract date?
A Not without looking at them and comparing them
Q Okay. We can scroll through. These were all,
you know, documents that were produced in the -- in the
case. But I -- just looking at them, I haven't really
10 seen a difference, at least as it relates to the slab
11 height.
12 Do you recall any change in the slab height
13 between March of 2019 and May of 2019?
14 A No. That was established on-site with Ray
15 Jett.
16 Q Okay. And do you know when that occurred? I'm
17 assuming it would be after May of 2019 when the contract
18 was signed?
19 A Yes, ma'am.
20 Q Okay. So as of May, the plan, as these plans
21 show, was still to build a raised house that was 3 feet
22 above the ground level, correct?
23 MR. HARRIS: Objection, form.
24 Q. (BY MS. SPEER) You can answer.
25 A Ask the question again.
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Q Okay. And so on completion -- looking at this,
looking at the dates that I've seen as far as the
elevation certificates and everything, when -- I guess
the project was completed in March of 2020; is that
correct?
A Yes.
Q Okay. And we looked already at the text
message from Bubba around that time, and it looks like
they did the final walk-through, and it -- and Bubba
10 reported back that Sue was still upset about the steps
121 for the front porch.
12 How did the conversation come about between
13 you and Sue relating to this $10,000 discount that we
14 show on the first page of this change order document?
15 Did you -- did you -- I mean, we saw Bubba's text
16 message
17 Did you pick up the phone and call Sue, or
18 was there conversations leading up to that?
19 A No, there wasn't. Sue picked up the phone and
20 called me, and we started going back and forth about the
21 final invoice, and then she thought that she should be
22 compensated for the house not being as high as she
23 initially wanted it. And we went back and forth on
24 numbers. She started out at like 20 grand, and I think
25 we ended up with this number.
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Q How -- I guess what factored into this number?
Because it's not -- you know, you said you started at
$20,000. And this number, it's not a round number, so
was there specific items that were talked about and
discussed, or is this just looking at what the final
draw amount was and then you worked backwards from
there?
A That's correct. I had sent her the final
invoice, and we -- she said round numbers, you know,
10 they owe me 30. She said I'll pay you 20, and I said,
11 no, let's do this. And we went back and forth, and we
12 finally settled on this.
13 Q Okay. As part of that conversation, did -- did
14 you discuss with Sue this alleged agreement that the
15 slab was not going to be 3 feet above the ground level,
16 that that was agreed to at the beginning?
17 A No.
18 Q Okay. So, I mean, looking at the comment in
19 this change order, the comment says, "For owner not
20 liking the height of the slab." But if, you know, we're
21 going off of the plans that we looked at earlier, it's
22 not just not liking it, it's not complying with the
23 height that it was supposed to be in the plans?
24 MR. HARRIS: Objection, form.
25 Q (BY MS. SPEER) I guess, what was the
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Q Okay. But you're not aware of any equal
protection violations or anything like that; is that
right?
MR. HARRIS: I'm going to instruct my
client not to answer that question.
MS. SPEER: Okay. That question is
directly based on the pleadings that have been filed in
this case. So if she's being instructed not to answer,
then I'll ask the court reporter to certify that
10 question.
11 MR. HARRIS: Understood.
12 Q (BY MS. SPEER) Ms. Wimbish, did you ever offer
13 to correct -- let me rephrase that.
14 Did you ever off to raise the house after
15 the construction was completed?
16 A No.
17 Q Do you know if anybody else from Putnam
18 Builders offered to raise the house once the
19 construction was completed?
20 A No.
21 Q Okay. Was there any other repair or correction
22 offered to the Jetts related to the slab issue, as far
23 as you know?
24 A Just the discount I gave them.
25 Q Okay. That's the only thing that they were
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ever offered related to that issue?
A That's the only thing they ever asked for.
Q Okay.
MS. SPEER: I'll pass the witness.
MR. HARRIS: We'll reserve our questions
until time of trial.
THE COURT REPORTER: Before we go off the
record, Mr. Harris, can you please state on the record
whether or not you'd like a copy of the transcript and
10 what you'd like.
11 MR. HARRIS: I'd like a copy of the
12 transcript. I'd like the real transcript, electronic
13 version with PDF exhibits, please.
14 THE COURT REPORTER: Yes, sir.
15 (Proceedings concluded at 3:01 p.m.)
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