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· SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK
· COUNTY OF NEW YORK
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· SPARX LOGISTICS HONG KONG LTD.,· · · ··:
· SPARX LOGISTICS USA LIMITED,· · · · · ·:
· · · · · · · · · · · · · Plaintiffs,· ··: Index No.
· · · · · · -against-· · · · · · · · · ··: 650884/2017
· SHOEZ, INC., BRANDS UNLIMITED, LLC,· ··:
· GIF SERVICES, INC., DEEPAK· · · · · · ·:
· RAMCHANDANI a/k/a DEEPAK PARIKH and· ··:
· GINA NAPOLITANO,· · · · · · · · · · · ·:
· · · · · · · · · · · · · Defendants.· ··:
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· · · · · · · · · · · · · January 17, 2019
· · · · · · · · · · · · · 10:00 a.m.
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· · · · Deposition of Defendants Shoez, Inc. and
· Brands Unlimited, by DEEPAK RAMCHANDANI, held at the
· law offices of Lazarus & Lazarus, P.C., 240 Madison
· Avenue, New York, New York, before Susan B. Ratner,
·a Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public within and
· for the State of New York.
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·2··A P P E A R A N C E S:
·3··
·4··LAZARUS & LAZARUS, P.C.
·5··Attorneys for Plaintiffs
·6·· · · ·240 Madison Avenue, 8th Floor
·7·· · · ·New York, New York 10016
·8··BY:· ·YVETTE J. SUTTON, ESQ.
·9··
10··BALLON STOLL BADER & NADLER, P.C.
11··Attorneys for Defendants
12·· · · ·729 Seventh Avenue, 17th Floor
13·· · · ·New York, New York 10019
14··BY:· ·BRETT A. NADLER, ESQ.
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
·3·· · · ·Q.· ·Approximately how long after the company
·4··was formed did your father, Kanaya, become a member?
·5·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
·6·· · · ·Q.· ·Where are Brands' offices currently
·7··located?
·8·· · · ·A.· ·We share the same office.
·9·· · · · · ··1357 Broadway.
10·· · · ·Q.· ·Who does Brands share office space with?
11·· · · ·A.· ·With another company.
12·· · · ·Q.· ·What is the name of the other company?
13·· · · ·A.· ·Raw Brands.
14·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any other operating
15··locations?
16·· · · ·A.· ·No.
17·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any other warehouse
18··locations?
19·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
20·· · · · · ··You can answer.
21·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any warehouses?
22·· · · ·A.· ·No.
23·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any office space in LA?
24·· · · ·A.· ·No.
25·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands rent warehouse space
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2··anywhere?
·3·· · · ·A.· ·No.
·4·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any other affiliated
·5··companies?
·6·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
·7·· · · · · ··You can answer.
·8·· · · ·A.· ·I don't understand the question.
·9·· · · ·Q.· ·I believe you said that Brands is in the
10··men's clothing business; is that correct?
11·· · · ·A.· ·That's correct.
12·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands import men's clothing?
13·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
14·· · · ·Q.· ·How is that done?
15·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
16·· · · ·A.· ·I don't understand the question.
17·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··That is a broad question.
18·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands currently import clothing,
19··men's clothing?
20·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
21·· · · ·Q.· ·Approximately how much clothing, would
22··you say, is imported by Brands per year?
23·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
24·· · · · · ··Do you want to put a parameter on it?
25·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··A year.
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Quantity?··Dollars?
·3·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··In quantity, the number of
·4·· · · ·pieces.
·5·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know?
·6·· · · ·A.· ·I don't know.
·7·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know a dollar amount?
·8·· · · ·A.· ·I don't know.
·9·· · · ·Q.· ·Is Brands in any way affiliated with a
10··company called Shoez, Inc.?
11·· · · ·A.· ·I actually don't understand the term
12··"affiliated."
13·· · · ·Q.· ·Is Brands related in any way to the
14··company Shoez, Inc.; do they share common ownership
15··and common employees, et cetera?
16·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
17·· · · · · ··Can you break that up?
18·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··All right.
19·· · · ·Q.· ·Are any members of Brands also members
20··of Shoez?
21·· · · ·A.· ·Can you please repeat the question?
22·· · · ·Q.· ·Are any members of Brands also owners in
23··Shoez?
24·· · · ·A.· ·No.
25·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands share the same employees as
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2··Shoez?
·3·· · · ·A.· ·No.
·4·· · · ·Q.· ·You are here today as a representative of
·5··Shoez, as well, today; is that correct?
·6·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
·7·· · · ·Q.· ·What is your role at Shoez, Inc.?
·8·· · · ·A.· ·I was buying on behalf of the company.
·9·· · · ·Q.· ·When you say that you were buying on
10··behalf of the company, you individually or Brands?
11·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
12·· · · · · ··You asked him what his role at Shoez was.
13·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··Yes.
14·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··I think he is talking about
15·· · · ·what one of his responsibilities was.
16·· · · · · ··Do you want to know what his title was at
17·· · · ·Shoez; is that what you are asking?
18·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··I wanted to first know what
19·· · · ·he was doing and then if he can also tell me
20·· · · ·what his title was at Shoez.
21·· · · ·A.· ·Buyer.
22·· · · ·Q.· ·Who are the owners of Shoez, Inc.?
23·· · · ·A.· ·Me.
24·· · · ·Q.· ·Is it correct to say that you are the
25··sole owner of Shoez, Inc.?
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
·3·· · · ·Q.· ·Are you currently a buyer on behalf of
·4··Shoez?
·5·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··For --
·6·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··For Shoez.
·7·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
·8·· · · ·Q.· ·How long have you been a buyer for Shoez?
·9·· · · ·A.· ·Since the company was formed.
10·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you remember when Shoez was formed?
11·· · · ·A.· ·Over ten years ago.
12·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you receive a salary from Shoez?
13·· · · ·A.· ·No.
14·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez have any salaried employees?
15·· · · ·A.· ·No.
16·· · · ·Q.· ·What is Shoez in the business of?
17·· · · ·A.· ·General merchandise.
18·· · · ·Q.· ·Can you explain that, please?
19·· · · ·A.· ·Buying and selling of product.
20·· · · ·Q.· ·Who does Shoez buy product from,
21··typically?
22·· · · ·A.· ·Everybody.
23·· · · ·Q.· ·Do they buy product from overseas?
24·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
25·· · · ·Q.· ·Is there a country of origin that Shoez
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2··typically buys product from?
·3·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
·4·· · · · · ··You can answer.
·5·· · · ·A.· ·No.
·6·· · · ·Q.· ·Who does Shoez sell product to?
·7·· · · ·A.· ·Wholesalers and retailers.
·8·· · · ·Q.· ·Who do they sell product to?
·9·· · · ·A.· ·Wholesalers and retailers.
10·· · · ·Q.· ·Both?
11·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
12·· · · ·Q.· ·Are the wholesalers and retailers
13··primarily located within the United States?
14·· · · ·A.· ·No.
15·· · · ·Q.· ·Where are Shoez's purchasers?
16·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Customers?
17·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··Customers.
18·· · · ·Q.· ·Where are Shoez's customers located?
19·· · · ·A.· ·Can you repeat the question, please?
20·· · · ·Q.· ·I believe you testified that the
21··wholesalers and retailers that Shoez sells to are
22··not in the United States.
23·· · · · · ··Where are they located?
24·· · · ·A.· ·Canada and Mexico.
25·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez buy product on behalf of
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2··Brands?
·3·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
·4·· · · · · ··You can answer.
·5·· · · ·A.· ·No.
·6·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez sell to Brands?
·7·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
·8·· · · · · ··You are talking about what time frame?
·9·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··In general.
10·· · · ·Q.· ·In general, does Shoez typically sell to
11··Brands merchandise that it imports?
12·· · · ·A.· ·Can you please repeat the question?
13·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez sell any product to Brands?
14·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Currently?
15·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··In the past or currently.
16·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··That is two questions.
17·· · · ·Q.· ·In the past, did Shoez sell product to
18··Brands?
19·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
20·· · · ·Q.· ·What did they typically sell to Brands?
21·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
22·· · · · · ··You can answer.
23·· · · ·A.· ·Clothing.
24·· · · ·Q.· ·Was it typically men's clothing?
25·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · ·Q.· ·How about Brooklyn Laundry?
·3·· · · ·A.· ·What about Brooklyn Laundry?
·4·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands own the trademark for
·5··Brooklyn Laundry?
·6·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
·7·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Brands use the label Brooklyn Laundry
·8··on merchandise?
·9·· · · ·A.· ·Yes, it did.
10·· · · ·Q.· ·It did?
11·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
12·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez use the label Brooklyn Laundry
13··on merchandise?
14·· · · ·A.· ·Yes, it did.
15·· · · ·Q.· ·Did either of those companies own a
16··trademark for Brooklyn Laundry?
17·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
18·· · · ·Q.· ·Who?
19·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
20·· · · ·Q.· ·Do either of those companies maintain
21··registration for the trademark Brooklyn Laundry?
22·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
23·· · · · · ··Can you break that up?
24·· · · · · ··He cannot answer on behalf of two
25·· · · ·companies at once.
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · ·Q.· ·You actually wrote up the invoices to the
·3··customers?
·4·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
·5·· · · ·Q.· ·But you don't recall who wrote purchase
·6··orders?
·7·· · · ·A.· ·No.
·8·· · · ·Q.· ·Who met with customers in order to
·9··advertise the merchandise?
10·· · · ·A.· ·I did.
11·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··For Shoez?
12·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··For Shoez.
13·· · · ·Q.· ·Did anyone else meet with customers on
14··behalf of Shoez?
15·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
16·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Devyani ever meet with customers on
17··behalf of Shoez?
18·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
19·· · · ·Q.· ·Why did Shoez stop its business
20··operations?
21·· · · ·A.· ·It was too much work for me.
22·· · · ·Q.· ·Can you tell me how the work of Shoez
23··differed from the work of Brands?
24·· · · ·A.· ·There was no difference.
25·· · · ·Q.· ·In what way did it become less work for
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you see that the first page of
·3··Exhibit 3 is an invoice to Shoez, Inc.?
·4·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
·5·· · · ·Q.· ·It's an invoice for 9,936 pieces of goods?
·6·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
·7·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if Shoez, Inc. received these
·8··goods?
·9·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
10·· · · ·Q.· ·When did they receive these goods?
11·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
12·· · · · · ··The invoice is dated August 20, 2015, so
13··probably in the month of August of 2015.
14·· · · ·Q.· ·How do you know that Shoez received these
15··goods?
16·· · · ·A.· ·Because it was invoiced to Shoez.
17·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Brands ever receive these goods; do
18··you know?
19·· · · ·A.· ·No.
20·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if Shoez sold these goods?
21·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
22·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if all 9,936 pieces were sold?
23·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
24·· · · ·Q.· ·Who were the goods sold to?
25·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · ·Q.· ·Was Brands a customer of Shoez for these
·3··goods?
·4·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
·5·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you recall at what unit price Shoez
·6··sold the goods to its customers?
·7·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
·8·· · · ·Q.· ·Would there have been a markup on the
·9··unit price that is reflected on Exhibit 3?
10·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember the price it was sold
11··for, so I can't say whether there was a markup or
12··not.
13··RQ· · · · ·MS. SUTTON:··We would request records of
14·· · · ·Shoez's sales of these 9,936 pieces.
15·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··To the extent that it has
16·· · · ·not already been provided --
17·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··I don't think that it has
18·· · · ·been provided.
19·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··If you can put it in a
20·· · · ·letter, please.
21·· · · · · ··I will make a note of it, but I believe
22·· · · ·it was provided.
23·· · · ·Q.· ·Would Shoez have sold the pieces at a
24··profit?
25·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you remember if Shoez lost any money
·3··on the sale of these goods?
·4·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
·5·· · · ·Q.· ·Why did Shoez lose money on these goods?
·6·· · · · · ··I am referencing Exhibit 3, the 9,936
·7··pieces.
·8·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember exactly.
·9·· · · ·Q.· ·But you do recall that Shoez lost money
10··on these goods?
11·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
12·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know how much?
13·· · · ·A.· ·No.
14·· · · ·Q.· ·Are any of these pieces, the 9,936 pieces
15··reflected on Exhibit 3, in inventory, in Shoez's
16··inventory?
17·· · · ·A.· ·No.
18·· · · ·Q.· ·They were all sold, correct?
19·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
20·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if the goods were sold to
21··Raw Brands?
22·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
23·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Raw Brands buy any inventory of
24··Shoez's?
25·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · ·Q.· ·When Shoez closed, did Raw Brands buy
·3··most of Shoez's existing inventory?
·4·· · · ·A.· ·No.
·5·· · · ·Q.· ·Would you turn to Exhibit 4, which is
·6··invoice No. 1291.
·7·· · · ·A.· ·Okay.
·8·· · · ·Q.· ·Have you had a chance to review Exhibit 4?
·9·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
10·· · · ·Q.· ·The top page of Exhibit 4 is an invoice,
11··the last four digits of the invoice number being
12··1291, to Shoez, Inc. from Ravissant Ltd.
13·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
14·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if Shoez received these goods?
15·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
16·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez receive all 14,712 pieces?
17·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
18·· · · ·Q.· ·When did Shoez receive these goods?
19·· · · ·A.· ·I am basing it on the invoice date.
20·· · · · · ··The invoice is dated August 2015, so it
21··should be around August 2015.
22·· · · ·Q.· ·If you would turn to page 19 of Exhibit 4,
23··there is an arrival notice.
24·· · · · · ··If you would review this document, does
25··that refresh your recollection as to when Shoez
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2··received the goods that are the subject of invoice
·3··No. 1291?
·4·· · · ·A.· ·It says August 2015.
·5·· · · · · ··It was created in August 2015.
·6·· · · · · ··Again, if the document says August 2015,
·7··the goods should have been delivered August 2015.
·8·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Off the record.
·9·· · · · · ··(Discussion off the record.)
10·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Back on the record.
11·· · · ·Q.· ·Typically, Shoez would have received the
12··goods around the date of the arrival notice; is that
13··correct?
14·· · · ·A.· ·That is correct.
15·· · · ·Q.· ·Approximately how many days after?
16·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
17·· · · · · ··You can answer.
18·· · · ·A.· ·I don't know.··It's all -- I don't know.
19·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell the goods that are the
20··subject of invoice No. 1291?
21·· · · ·A.· ·Please repeat the question.
22·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell the goods that are the
23··subject of this invoice?
24·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
25·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell all 14,712 pieces?
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·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani
·2·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
·3·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know at what unit price Shoez sold
·4··the goods?
·5·· · · ·A.· ·No.
·6·· · · · · ··I don't remember.
·7·· · · ·Q.· ·Would there have been a markup from the
·8··unit price that is reflected on this invoice?
·9·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
10·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez typically mark up the price to
11··its customers?
12·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
13·· · · ·Q.· ·Is the price usually double?
14·· · · ·A.· ·No.
15·· · · ·Q.· ·What is Shoez's typical markup to its
16··customer?
17·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection.
18·· · · · · ··You can answer.
19·· · · ·A.· ·It depends upon the product.
20·· · · ·Q.· ·For men's --
21·· · · ·A.· ·It depends upon how the weather is.
22·· · · · · ··If it's August, it's -- it depends upon
23··the business.
24·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if Shoez, Inc. made a profit
25··in the sales to its customers relating to these
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·2··14,712 pieces?
·3·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
·4··RQ· · · · ·MS. SUTTON:··We would request the records
·5·· · · ·relating to Shoez's sales of these goods.
·6·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··I believe they have been
·7·· · · ·provided.··You said that they have not been.
·8·· · · · · ··We will take your request under
·9·· · · ·advisement.
10·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··If you want to let me know
11·· · · ·the Bates range, you can do that.
12·· · · · · ··I don't think that I have seen them,
13·· · · ·though there were many, many documents
14·· · · ·produced.
15·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell any of the pieces reflected
16··on Exhibit 4 to Brands?
17·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
18·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell any of the product listed
19··on Exhibit 4 to Raw Brands?
20·· · · ·A.· ·No.
21·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez pay anyone for these goods?
22·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
23·· · · ·Q.· ·Who did Shoez pay for these goods?
24·· · · ·A.· ·Ravissant.
25·· · · ·Q.· ·When were they paid for?
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·2·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
·3·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you have a record of payment being
·4··made to Ravissant?
·5·· · · ·A.· ·Yes.
·6··RQ· · · · ·MS. SUTTON:··I would request copies of
·7·· · · ·that, as well.
·8·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··That has been produced, but,
·9·· · · ·again, if you say they have not been produced,
10·· · · ·we will take it under advisement, if you would
11·· · · ·put that in your follow-up letter.
12·· · · ·Q.· ·How was Ravissant paid?
13·· · · ·A.· ·I don't understand the question.
14·· · · ·Q.· ·Was it by check?··Was it by wire transfer?
15·· · · ·A.· ·Wire transfer.
16·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez pay Ravissant directly?
17·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Are you talking about this
18·· · · ·invoice?··Are you talking about in general?
19·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··This invoice.
20·· · · · · ··We are concentrating now on this invoice.
21·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember.
22·· · · ·Q.· ·Who else would have been paid, other than
23··Ravissant, with respect to this invoice?
24·· · · ·A.· ·Only Ravissant.
25·· · · ·Q.· ·Did a different company pay on behalf of
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FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 1 · · SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK · COUNTY OF NEW YORK · ---------------------------------------x · SPARX LOGISTICS HONG KONG LTD.,· · · ··: · SPARX LOGISTICS USA LIMITED,· · · · · ·: · · · · · · · · · · · · · Plaintiffs,· ··: Index No. · · · · · · -against-· · · · · · · · · ··: 650884/2017 · SHOEZ, INC., BRANDS UNLIMITED, LLC,· ··: · GIF SERVICES, INC., DEEPAK· · · · · · ·: · RAMCHANDANI a/k/a DEEPAK PARIKH and· ··: · GINA NAPOLITANO,· · · · · · · · · · · ·: · · · · · · · · · · · · · Defendants.· ··: · ---------------------------------------x · · · · · · · · · · · · · January 17, 2019 · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10:00 a.m. · · · · · Deposition of Defendants Shoez, Inc. and · Brands Unlimited, by DEEPAK RAMCHANDANI, held at the · law offices of Lazarus & Lazarus, P.C., 240 Madison · Avenue, New York, New York, before Susan B. Ratner, ·a Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public within and · for the State of New York. · · REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 2 ·1·· ·2··A P P E A R A N C E S: ·3·· ·4··LAZARUS & LAZARUS, P.C. ·5··Attorneys for Plaintiffs ·6·· · · ·240 Madison Avenue, 8th Floor ·7·· · · ·New York, New York 10016 ·8··BY:· ·YVETTE J. SUTTON, ESQ. ·9·· 10··BALLON STOLL BADER & NADLER, P.C. 11··Attorneys for Defendants 12·· · · ·729 Seventh Avenue, 17th Floor 13·· · · ·New York, New York 10019 14··BY:· ·BRETT A. NADLER, ESQ. 15·· 16·· 17·· 18·· 19·· 20·· 21·· 22·· 23·· 24·· 25·· REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 21 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. ·3·· · · ·Q.· ·Approximately how long after the company ·4··was formed did your father, Kanaya, become a member? ·5·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. ·6·· · · ·Q.· ·Where are Brands' offices currently ·7··located? ·8·· · · ·A.· ·We share the same office. ·9·· · · · · ··1357 Broadway. 10·· · · ·Q.· ·Who does Brands share office space with? 11·· · · ·A.· ·With another company. 12·· · · ·Q.· ·What is the name of the other company? 13·· · · ·A.· ·Raw Brands. 14·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any other operating 15··locations? 16·· · · ·A.· ·No. 17·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any other warehouse 18··locations? 19·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. 20·· · · · · ··You can answer. 21·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any warehouses? 22·· · · ·A.· ·No. 23·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any office space in LA? 24·· · · ·A.· ·No. 25·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands rent warehouse space REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 22 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2··anywhere? ·3·· · · ·A.· ·No. ·4·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands have any other affiliated ·5··companies? ·6·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. ·7·· · · · · ··You can answer. ·8·· · · ·A.· ·I don't understand the question. ·9·· · · ·Q.· ·I believe you said that Brands is in the 10··men's clothing business; is that correct? 11·· · · ·A.· ·That's correct. 12·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands import men's clothing? 13·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 14·· · · ·Q.· ·How is that done? 15·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. 16·· · · ·A.· ·I don't understand the question. 17·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··That is a broad question. 18·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands currently import clothing, 19··men's clothing? 20·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 21·· · · ·Q.· ·Approximately how much clothing, would 22··you say, is imported by Brands per year? 23·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. 24·· · · · · ··Do you want to put a parameter on it? 25·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··A year. REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 23 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Quantity?··Dollars? ·3·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··In quantity, the number of ·4·· · · ·pieces. ·5·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know? ·6·· · · ·A.· ·I don't know. ·7·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know a dollar amount? ·8·· · · ·A.· ·I don't know. ·9·· · · ·Q.· ·Is Brands in any way affiliated with a 10··company called Shoez, Inc.? 11·· · · ·A.· ·I actually don't understand the term 12··"affiliated." 13·· · · ·Q.· ·Is Brands related in any way to the 14··company Shoez, Inc.; do they share common ownership 15··and common employees, et cetera? 16·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. 17·· · · · · ··Can you break that up? 18·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··All right. 19·· · · ·Q.· ·Are any members of Brands also members 20··of Shoez? 21·· · · ·A.· ·Can you please repeat the question? 22·· · · ·Q.· ·Are any members of Brands also owners in 23··Shoez? 24·· · · ·A.· ·No. 25·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands share the same employees as REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 24 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2··Shoez? ·3·· · · ·A.· ·No. ·4·· · · ·Q.· ·You are here today as a representative of ·5··Shoez, as well, today; is that correct? ·6·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. ·7·· · · ·Q.· ·What is your role at Shoez, Inc.? ·8·· · · ·A.· ·I was buying on behalf of the company. ·9·· · · ·Q.· ·When you say that you were buying on 10··behalf of the company, you individually or Brands? 11·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. 12·· · · · · ··You asked him what his role at Shoez was. 13·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··Yes. 14·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··I think he is talking about 15·· · · ·what one of his responsibilities was. 16·· · · · · ··Do you want to know what his title was at 17·· · · ·Shoez; is that what you are asking? 18·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··I wanted to first know what 19·· · · ·he was doing and then if he can also tell me 20·· · · ·what his title was at Shoez. 21·· · · ·A.· ·Buyer. 22·· · · ·Q.· ·Who are the owners of Shoez, Inc.? 23·· · · ·A.· ·Me. 24·· · · ·Q.· ·Is it correct to say that you are the 25··sole owner of Shoez, Inc.? REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 25 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. ·3·· · · ·Q.· ·Are you currently a buyer on behalf of ·4··Shoez? ·5·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··For -- ·6·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··For Shoez. ·7·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. ·8·· · · ·Q.· ·How long have you been a buyer for Shoez? ·9·· · · ·A.· ·Since the company was formed. 10·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you remember when Shoez was formed? 11·· · · ·A.· ·Over ten years ago. 12·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you receive a salary from Shoez? 13·· · · ·A.· ·No. 14·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez have any salaried employees? 15·· · · ·A.· ·No. 16·· · · ·Q.· ·What is Shoez in the business of? 17·· · · ·A.· ·General merchandise. 18·· · · ·Q.· ·Can you explain that, please? 19·· · · ·A.· ·Buying and selling of product. 20·· · · ·Q.· ·Who does Shoez buy product from, 21··typically? 22·· · · ·A.· ·Everybody. 23·· · · ·Q.· ·Do they buy product from overseas? 24·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 25·· · · ·Q.· ·Is there a country of origin that Shoez REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 26 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2··typically buys product from? ·3·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. ·4·· · · · · ··You can answer. ·5·· · · ·A.· ·No. ·6·· · · ·Q.· ·Who does Shoez sell product to? ·7·· · · ·A.· ·Wholesalers and retailers. ·8·· · · ·Q.· ·Who do they sell product to? ·9·· · · ·A.· ·Wholesalers and retailers. 10·· · · ·Q.· ·Both? 11·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 12·· · · ·Q.· ·Are the wholesalers and retailers 13··primarily located within the United States? 14·· · · ·A.· ·No. 15·· · · ·Q.· ·Where are Shoez's purchasers? 16·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Customers? 17·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··Customers. 18·· · · ·Q.· ·Where are Shoez's customers located? 19·· · · ·A.· ·Can you repeat the question, please? 20·· · · ·Q.· ·I believe you testified that the 21··wholesalers and retailers that Shoez sells to are 22··not in the United States. 23·· · · · · ··Where are they located? 24·· · · ·A.· ·Canada and Mexico. 25·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez buy product on behalf of REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 27 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2··Brands? ·3·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. ·4·· · · · · ··You can answer. ·5·· · · ·A.· ·No. ·6·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez sell to Brands? ·7·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. ·8·· · · · · ··You are talking about what time frame? ·9·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··In general. 10·· · · ·Q.· ·In general, does Shoez typically sell to 11··Brands merchandise that it imports? 12·· · · ·A.· ·Can you please repeat the question? 13·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez sell any product to Brands? 14·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Currently? 15·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··In the past or currently. 16·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··That is two questions. 17·· · · ·Q.· ·In the past, did Shoez sell product to 18··Brands? 19·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 20·· · · ·Q.· ·What did they typically sell to Brands? 21·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. 22·· · · · · ··You can answer. 23·· · · ·A.· ·Clothing. 24·· · · ·Q.· ·Was it typically men's clothing? 25·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 37 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·Q.· ·How about Brooklyn Laundry? ·3·· · · ·A.· ·What about Brooklyn Laundry? ·4·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Brands own the trademark for ·5··Brooklyn Laundry? ·6·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. ·7·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Brands use the label Brooklyn Laundry ·8··on merchandise? ·9·· · · ·A.· ·Yes, it did. 10·· · · ·Q.· ·It did? 11·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 12·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez use the label Brooklyn Laundry 13··on merchandise? 14·· · · ·A.· ·Yes, it did. 15·· · · ·Q.· ·Did either of those companies own a 16··trademark for Brooklyn Laundry? 17·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 18·· · · ·Q.· ·Who? 19·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. 20·· · · ·Q.· ·Do either of those companies maintain 21··registration for the trademark Brooklyn Laundry? 22·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. 23·· · · · · ··Can you break that up? 24·· · · · · ··He cannot answer on behalf of two 25·· · · ·companies at once. REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 42 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·Q.· ·You actually wrote up the invoices to the ·3··customers? ·4·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. ·5·· · · ·Q.· ·But you don't recall who wrote purchase ·6··orders? ·7·· · · ·A.· ·No. ·8·· · · ·Q.· ·Who met with customers in order to ·9··advertise the merchandise? 10·· · · ·A.· ·I did. 11·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··For Shoez? 12·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··For Shoez. 13·· · · ·Q.· ·Did anyone else meet with customers on 14··behalf of Shoez? 15·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. 16·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Devyani ever meet with customers on 17··behalf of Shoez? 18·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. 19·· · · ·Q.· ·Why did Shoez stop its business 20··operations? 21·· · · ·A.· ·It was too much work for me. 22·· · · ·Q.· ·Can you tell me how the work of Shoez 23··differed from the work of Brands? 24·· · · ·A.· ·There was no difference. 25·· · · ·Q.· ·In what way did it become less work for REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 50 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you see that the first page of ·3··Exhibit 3 is an invoice to Shoez, Inc.? ·4·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. ·5·· · · ·Q.· ·It's an invoice for 9,936 pieces of goods? ·6·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. ·7·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if Shoez, Inc. received these ·8··goods? ·9·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 10·· · · ·Q.· ·When did they receive these goods? 11·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. 12·· · · · · ··The invoice is dated August 20, 2015, so 13··probably in the month of August of 2015. 14·· · · ·Q.· ·How do you know that Shoez received these 15··goods? 16·· · · ·A.· ·Because it was invoiced to Shoez. 17·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Brands ever receive these goods; do 18··you know? 19·· · · ·A.· ·No. 20·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if Shoez sold these goods? 21·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 22·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if all 9,936 pieces were sold? 23·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 24·· · · ·Q.· ·Who were the goods sold to? 25·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 51 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·Q.· ·Was Brands a customer of Shoez for these ·3··goods? ·4·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. ·5·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you recall at what unit price Shoez ·6··sold the goods to its customers? ·7·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. ·8·· · · ·Q.· ·Would there have been a markup on the ·9··unit price that is reflected on Exhibit 3? 10·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember the price it was sold 11··for, so I can't say whether there was a markup or 12··not. 13··RQ· · · · ·MS. SUTTON:··We would request records of 14·· · · ·Shoez's sales of these 9,936 pieces. 15·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··To the extent that it has 16·· · · ·not already been provided -- 17·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··I don't think that it has 18·· · · ·been provided. 19·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··If you can put it in a 20·· · · ·letter, please. 21·· · · · · ··I will make a note of it, but I believe 22·· · · ·it was provided. 23·· · · ·Q.· ·Would Shoez have sold the pieces at a 24··profit? 25·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 52 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you remember if Shoez lost any money ·3··on the sale of these goods? ·4·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. ·5·· · · ·Q.· ·Why did Shoez lose money on these goods? ·6·· · · · · ··I am referencing Exhibit 3, the 9,936 ·7··pieces. ·8·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember exactly. ·9·· · · ·Q.· ·But you do recall that Shoez lost money 10··on these goods? 11·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 12·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know how much? 13·· · · ·A.· ·No. 14·· · · ·Q.· ·Are any of these pieces, the 9,936 pieces 15··reflected on Exhibit 3, in inventory, in Shoez's 16··inventory? 17·· · · ·A.· ·No. 18·· · · ·Q.· ·They were all sold, correct? 19·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 20·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if the goods were sold to 21··Raw Brands? 22·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. 23·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Raw Brands buy any inventory of 24··Shoez's? 25·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 53 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·Q.· ·When Shoez closed, did Raw Brands buy ·3··most of Shoez's existing inventory? ·4·· · · ·A.· ·No. ·5·· · · ·Q.· ·Would you turn to Exhibit 4, which is ·6··invoice No. 1291. ·7·· · · ·A.· ·Okay. ·8·· · · ·Q.· ·Have you had a chance to review Exhibit 4? ·9·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 10·· · · ·Q.· ·The top page of Exhibit 4 is an invoice, 11··the last four digits of the invoice number being 12··1291, to Shoez, Inc. from Ravissant Ltd. 13·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 14·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if Shoez received these goods? 15·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 16·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez receive all 14,712 pieces? 17·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 18·· · · ·Q.· ·When did Shoez receive these goods? 19·· · · ·A.· ·I am basing it on the invoice date. 20·· · · · · ··The invoice is dated August 2015, so it 21··should be around August 2015. 22·· · · ·Q.· ·If you would turn to page 19 of Exhibit 4, 23··there is an arrival notice. 24·· · · · · ··If you would review this document, does 25··that refresh your recollection as to when Shoez REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 54 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2··received the goods that are the subject of invoice ·3··No. 1291? ·4·· · · ·A.· ·It says August 2015. ·5·· · · · · ··It was created in August 2015. ·6·· · · · · ··Again, if the document says August 2015, ·7··the goods should have been delivered August 2015. ·8·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Off the record. ·9·· · · · · ··(Discussion off the record.) 10·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Back on the record. 11·· · · ·Q.· ·Typically, Shoez would have received the 12··goods around the date of the arrival notice; is that 13··correct? 14·· · · ·A.· ·That is correct. 15·· · · ·Q.· ·Approximately how many days after? 16·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. 17·· · · · · ··You can answer. 18·· · · ·A.· ·I don't know.··It's all -- I don't know. 19·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell the goods that are the 20··subject of invoice No. 1291? 21·· · · ·A.· ·Please repeat the question. 22·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell the goods that are the 23··subject of this invoice? 24·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 25·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell all 14,712 pieces? REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 55 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. ·3·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know at what unit price Shoez sold ·4··the goods? ·5·· · · ·A.· ·No. ·6·· · · · · ··I don't remember. ·7·· · · ·Q.· ·Would there have been a markup from the ·8··unit price that is reflected on this invoice? ·9·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. 10·· · · ·Q.· ·Does Shoez typically mark up the price to 11··its customers? 12·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 13·· · · ·Q.· ·Is the price usually double? 14·· · · ·A.· ·No. 15·· · · ·Q.· ·What is Shoez's typical markup to its 16··customer? 17·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Objection. 18·· · · · · ··You can answer. 19·· · · ·A.· ·It depends upon the product. 20·· · · ·Q.· ·For men's -- 21·· · · ·A.· ·It depends upon how the weather is. 22·· · · · · ··If it's August, it's -- it depends upon 23··the business. 24·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you know if Shoez, Inc. made a profit 25··in the sales to its customers relating to these REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 56 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2··14,712 pieces? ·3·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. ·4··RQ· · · · ·MS. SUTTON:··We would request the records ·5·· · · ·relating to Shoez's sales of these goods. ·6·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··I believe they have been ·7·· · · ·provided.··You said that they have not been. ·8·· · · · · ··We will take your request under ·9·· · · ·advisement. 10·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··If you want to let me know 11·· · · ·the Bates range, you can do that. 12·· · · · · ··I don't think that I have seen them, 13·· · · ·though there were many, many documents 14·· · · ·produced. 15·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell any of the pieces reflected 16··on Exhibit 4 to Brands? 17·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. 18·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez sell any of the product listed 19··on Exhibit 4 to Raw Brands? 20·· · · ·A.· ·No. 21·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez pay anyone for these goods? 22·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. 23·· · · ·Q.· ·Who did Shoez pay for these goods? 24·· · · ·A.· ·Ravissant. 25·· · · ·Q.· ·When were they paid for? REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM INDEX NO. 650884/2017 NYSCEF DOC. NO. 47 RECEIVED NYSCEF: 12/24/2019 Page 57 ·1·· · · · · · · ·D. Ramchandani ·2·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. ·3·· · · ·Q.· ·Do you have a record of payment being ·4··made to Ravissant? ·5·· · · ·A.· ·Yes. ·6··RQ· · · · ·MS. SUTTON:··I would request copies of ·7·· · · ·that, as well. ·8·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··That has been produced, but, ·9·· · · ·again, if you say they have not been produced, 10·· · · ·we will take it under advisement, if you would 11·· · · ·put that in your follow-up letter. 12·· · · ·Q.· ·How was Ravissant paid? 13·· · · ·A.· ·I don't understand the question. 14·· · · ·Q.· ·Was it by check?··Was it by wire transfer? 15·· · · ·A.· ·Wire transfer. 16·· · · ·Q.· ·Did Shoez pay Ravissant directly? 17·· · · · · ··MR. NADLER:··Are you talking about this 18·· · · ·invoice?··Are you talking about in general? 19·· · · · · ··MS. SUTTON:··This invoice. 20·· · · · · ··We are concentrating now on this invoice. 21·· · · ·A.· ·I don't remember. 22·· · · ·Q.· ·Who else would have been paid, other than 23··Ravissant, with respect to this invoice? 24·· · · ·A.· ·Only Ravissant. 25·· · · ·Q.· ·Did a different company pay on behalf of REPORTERS CENTRAL, LLC * 212-594-3582 FILED: NEW YORK COUNTY CLERK 12/24/2019 04:31 PM IN