Motion,Ex Parte: GODOFREDO PIQUE VS. ASBESTOS DEFENDANTS (B/P)AS REFLECTED ON EXHIBITS et al

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LANKFORD
CRAWFORD

MORENO LLP.
ATTORNEYS ar LAW

PAUL V. LANKFORD (State Bar No. 181506)

plankford@lclaw.com
PAUL LANNUS (State Bar No. 192551) ELECTRONICALLY
plannus@lelaw.com
LANKFORD CRAWFORD MORENO LLP sopehr IL ED.
1850 Mt. Diablo Blvd., Suite 600 County of San Francisco
Walnut Creek, CA 94596 FEB 06 2012
Telephone: 925.300.3520 Clerk of the Court
Facsimile: 925.300.3386 BY: JUANITA D. MURPHY
Deputy Clerk
Attomeys for Defendant
FORD MOTOR COMPANY

SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO

ROSITA PIQUE, as Wrongful Death Heir, ASBESTOS
and as Successor-In-Interest to

GODOFREDO PIQUE, Deceased; and CASE No. CGC 08-274659
MARLENE SANCHEZ, GREGORY
PIQUE, FREDERICK PIQUE, as Legal EXHIBITS A THROUGH D TO THE

Heirs of GODOFREDO PIQUE, Deceased, DECLARATION OF PAUL LANNUS IN SUPPORT
OF MOTION IN LIMINE TO EXCLUDE THE

*Plaintiff, TESTIMONY OF, VIDEOTAPES PRODUCED By,
AND EXPERIMENTS CONDUCTED BY
v. PLAINTIFF’S EXPERTS, RICHARD HATFIELD,
WILLIAM LONGO AND JOHN TEMPLIN
ASBESTOS DEFENDANTS (B*P), [MIL #29]
Defendants.
* The use of the term “plaintiff as used herein refers to the plaintiff in a personal injury action and the
decedent in a wrongful death action; and the use of “plaintiff” shall refer to both plaintiff in the singular and plural, as

appropriate.

EXHIBITS A THROUGH D 10 THE DECLARATION OF PAUL LANNUS IN SUI
VIDEOTAPES PRODUCED BY, AND EXPERIMENTS CONDUCTED BY PLAENTIF

F MOTION IN LIMINE TO EXCLUDE PAE TESTIMONY OP,
RTS, RICHARD HATFIELD, WiLLIAM LONGO AND JOHN,
TEMPLIN
[MEL #29]EXHIBIT A

EXHIBIT A. ‘ OTHE 6TH DISTRICT COURT IN AND FOR LAMAR COUNTY TEXAS, :

iH RE:LAMAK COUNTY ASBESTOS LITIGATION CASES FILED O8 TO BEFILED BY WATERS £ KRAUS Ib

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Fladiags of Facx nod. Coechclear of Law
' : On tune 20, 3001 chs marer came oe before he court epee & matin filed Garlock, foc 4 sere OFS Wtium
Led podtatficld) of

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core Lanouncemana of rly Ox Coun procected wth éut Keurig Th panies waived bpeniag rutemems oe
cert rerio tealmany nnd exh ta parc sage wid Rael pence, FUetitts endared Ow exirety of

psaat rome eve walreany, dooumcas and phesgrigh sind to hewing td the rraeary review fa
che evidences ec ona Rukey che bowing Badia of ct ind conchusine of tres Eack Bowing of ect al ued Pe
1 Teed a conchaton af tw and exch enachatiod eC ine sal ba be couuered «Gating of foc nualar et doc we noe

» ceeny defined as one or tac exhar ar postlbly baveles bot

= FINDINGS OF FACT AMO CONCLUSIONS OF LAW

. u Gavernmenc und pro(cstanal aiocntion sundard perpesscd by 6M Oncepasional Safer und Hea

- @ 1 atin lon (OSHA] to Une Svs Emrocvoral Proccion Agency {EPA} Nocona! neians f Dossier
‘Heens and Safery CHIOSK) end tus Ansortcan Socucty of Testing Materials (ASTHG For svcusuring eirborme wbaim

Te a cee cpopures, ae eon vanderds ha da nk provide deerme for comotinnet. Sack weMiteee
Menten, provide exilable source evidenx for the cour tt inderraning
teach raise narndarde af Dechert Rablanon’ wnk-vis Fades 2, 402,462. 702 ered 103 af oe Tees Risks of

Freee jules dove mactawy ta bs tained ba ecient ba Tease toe reabiliy oa scleneltic theory oF tecnigue,
Atthovgh Gat écority Se comptes ex charset af wee cle Knetge ee et Ef mag
. Ai Oe ected py. dpe we abe neta od OS

. & Ma ey Cade wpe es wh wc ly wfc pints exprined i is cats by Os Lents
: Lidheidulty oc we chal of Me, Hattild concerning expan o peAwart oC eoer:

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: TTI cme tin Decbervn bien is wied tae the fllrwing decilon Dover een
. preccrnsicale (nc. 501 U.S. STU(EPED] and EL Ox Mowe de Kemer Kedinran TES. 0, 249 (Cea 101

LAMAR COUNTY 4SBESTOS LITIGATION Gateck, Inc. Dawber Order 1

Ww sevens cameren

4. Thee Gindings oC fat nad conetunloas oC Um are Winding epos ll panics effected yy he watimeny of the
cpemes Lente Harheld, conerraiig tht peedurs shout which tic tcaiferd ta wic tereping end removal of
TREE crbereme gukcn by hand nod ekawic wis lading pouring Jol compounds, seing Kayla prods and
SSoig tnd sanding Retly-Hoore joint sompounds, = ~

cart Ae pubic Ae ruched heres wd mae «parc here for ll perponse, tomaint she fecnast analyse bythe cour of
mre relevant exhieu And (enimony. ot .

: hes Peds by Garlock, ne ts Suppress ie textinony af Ox. Willian Lange and Mi. Richard KazficGd is
greed. This eer Wading wate Garr loc ana ache defenders fe Lamas Courey Arbosot Liteon Sct
Fredy Wer & Kreer esiag de tsar of Loge-Haced ant vont br HAS agnins partic te ark o Prohae
aestal (emaving hand wie buihag,ccente wie nah, asltng coment (peeing, Rena pros (Weng) ed
Eni Aoor: jolee compound (casing tad sanding

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LAMAR COUNTY ASBESTOS LITIGATION Garlock, fac, Dewbert Ocder 2EXHEM A

Eshcd
Tact Aattyis Of Reteveat Exbib|u Aad Tetinecy
Bumnertcs, peranhv eset ant comments ary ecficned

RULE 101 REQUIREMENTS

(2) The wines mon be iit .
The Court ls of the apinien chat De, Wiest Longs aid dt, Richard Hifi ore qualified by beth sacs
experiance tarclavone pesmed bbe allowed ta esath, fete at
Gi The propated dcetioocy tas be “eceentiie Enowtede” .
(Te Cow 8s of cue opinion that the sezcy combacted ky Loretta ald to the procturis Lrwctocal ba this hearng
mrt Kor ficolly provi ond wot accepted by a rapicable communty withia the edewent txencer.
Q) The tertinoay set estat the wer of Fae ty enderrand Gut evidence or te deterwrine & (set in mae,
The court le of te abalone A Leagendtasficld tanmony ls rather reward mor relishle, that © confating
. and thot wl wor west the wer of fact. °

RELEVANT EXHIBITS:

DX Gartock L, Aster aad Othee Fdrecs by POM .

"This the MICSH Hethad 1400 foom the Mammal of Ancthyieal Methods. Fewth Esfaian A1S064, The AS cera
aimed to Rae followed this beduod, .

SAP PUICABULITY: The Octhod gives an index af sirbons Chere kt primarily esed for exdrnectog
spertat eoncencritioat, Codec PCH deat aor éiffcreraintc levees asbio saal echer Bere, Ui chis metiod be .
conjunction with eleerna wlermscayy (cp. Medd 7407) for asttmanee la Kicification of Biber” - :

Mote thet PCM tr ta be used wih thle method, TER Ista be exed only for “UlersVfleation” of fibers. nat for

TIL Document te buboracey't preci for ouch ovantce for repens Sirs enue.

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13. Peetorm’btind recouna by the name county en (0% of (ler counter (lide telebcted by & parson ocher .
. han oo corer, os i
That ACLS core frted oe emeform ba thereon susncbard as wall ot th iraarvcstont to dlarrparst :
- samples that axeaedel tha apectted Bakes. - °
‘Factor, te MAS bra fated to vod ot cokcelerions, evaimattent anal meparvi muchinds eqwired be
MEDSN Montond 7408.
PX LONCO 2S Gecteck ladeartal Predera Catalog
The Garlock bre. cecalog powder an whundonce ry lnformarton about th variable r>ecYicartore. models. (Pe
Wintanted or orkerwlis mconned for eowgh application ef prope
pg coat tht fol oncing weriablck. °
pr 61 « Gerieting Covupeund Ha. 1010S. A ranrhardcelag plant ronpaced ext ws « wurface level on Seago
pines und tor tempor erp af tore er blown gues oiact on which iB saat de pox “vent” end we OLY .
Fae role w ony Rae, Ricarmmentad For ene 0k ternperenites reagieg fro below (7 o4 *400" F eapipetined wx echt ;

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. ceeds nrengtta wary woh coe grote front a Lowe f L008 pa to a hich of #,000 pt and ecru gralafroe # :
Yow of L000 pack an a high wf 4600 pol :
cmarteaces in ail cerlaance ger S bes, 0 ASTM #4 033, 00" F with thickmees decraatas rarcing from JK ee
13K amd a teeste houses tangiog few 0 bow 1 ‘high fH
‘Rad caalvcance, efor J ru MAST hf Feet 8 AT, Thknats imcreenes as bow ar JX ond x hich as 14:

LAMAR COUNTY ASBESTOS LITIGATION Geteck, inc. Dewtrent Onber

y% CO eeEXHIBITA

density variations rom at Low ar AS ta high as 1.0.
Tid sheet se: Gincheel reg lag from 40rd 40 1505 150
le rerlertons ix talerancer on duckmaster ant specyicmions

Pena. (net phirwn da the ehibld = loomed on dhe pare next bo du pegs omidid Garlock Haterictt ct wero
nadie wrtlar pppical Conditions ea tt fatty formation mt lag promt tha ae af the preg

DSTSEAL

ier the heartag the court reed and snaden the exhib, brthen becamt cfowr tha the martodologtas claimed tn
the MAS ter wore net followed, FortKer, tht toca ware defictare bn chat follere to mccourt for verioble bur rearonably
foocseeable condutont in tse pauthle paws  exponwe. Ox, Langa’ teatmory wat of beat Cisinrereron

Tie LES tart improperly teed dinyct and bedrock maedt of Semple preperation, ealrared ond elmeomes ened
TEM ancqres and application of Tpudall tight. The report oiled ta mention hat there wat a iver tg commvert TEM
crore CCA dase bo erable ie wea of Unt Bnbax of expres tn 6s OSHA epidenlelozica! edict. cddzlomatly, De.
Cree aitmeae Upropety clalrurd dat dr tia covered all pao of porns Cone ate feral)

Mer tg he ASTM Method D STS5-03 clakned In che MAS cans, the following dertectors by MAS Wieprrne the
reliably of te bene * -

Ty tee Method ty envied Sander Test Method for Maareracnium Sempting ard badirecr dalyils ef Dost

2p restoaanlar Sane experied lsorwctareses tks then srvcveresion! = Wl de # mlarceresentotioa of

shee scores, “This maechod it wad sa deeerminw exbesiad {ober a the apically vib range end bs kwonted 19 complerecrt,
Dee remda obtolnad by phase comrant ax Pelachod TAQ." The conrt extremes the ronron ba be the cain of De.
Longe at ta fliers wee ve borewiy lnodod with fiver tae du direct mashed of sample preperation reqelced by
rn | Tat Labaionall, Gc pore of to lancet wee peste weed i Gt ter ere adacreately explaled i de

dust pervcraed Fon mamerbcitas arkec Fecha, tht due 2000 repent bevolred dewalid air
Aopen dates etuermcions bx he arflow ferd-chrevt located te she CCL watt ond hehe d OT ot and 15 sexes fal
ofthe LOL hare par oa teeing, Unded. oe three eslia proved rusplctowty wide end%
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exnurts

(fibers from work place aciteties broleung Garlock ond ether trons af getlect brrmoring, hand wice betrhing. elecuis

wee eh ee ee owing “Rinne product (newing) ond KciyrHocre Jome comps tasting ered

1 land than Seltcted method ta echlewe che dovined ceatdes rat td in the HAS: end tenis

Hafield, Tals Us non permtanee. : sapere end tein of Cee
Fre Coaaiions of SUS tenes become even mond apparent he compared do exanidards tet for and

cpitemototea ati tO nde

Ee fare chatter fibers nod s8 a mebod of cowtsig hem Ke mapegable commatt of seiew TEM;

‘eoenting asbertor fisare, tome em tof steer hes weed TEM fo
fe phesed of hic andy EPA cuikered venplecfom mui iedsar ond eadoor Irealont rod he

commurthey, along with temples of diferten porantlal sources af exbesat Abra i abe (reste hy eomerant that thet LAS

ronmurcrnernt of aster concenresoa beset wa TEM re
PCE (chia U veered wa as CCM oxtctraloece
co aaatyaen tactes af different otc pasnptes hr
rdadleaahle berwers Gee tora, aad
(rote by comet that te LUT taser fated 18
to mee . . .
“ha mated abrve. Cox chief raion we ceticaig boca of asbestas fiber level ta cir weep oe,
aT tro destroy To Oot ted oecing wf Ga ends Hs les BOOS
deena derien gredonioary amscamnrotst, fhe potential belts Fisk ot Popie She SENS a the type
ce cavad upecial acovsie brvendgated urtag Ga ude. Becta ot (rudy wl oot rpm all postible
‘exponare conditions, bed a8 caer oc: hr dan wl be wad to bey etna he ca ders I
Cee Cheat akan hac reakdene ef Ley ey expres Eom bh tori, od apecial neo eRict.” fame
Ep cones that the ALLS fer feo recy ce Fr arf eceronabie firstctable condiiont of parece:

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LAMAR COUNTY ASBESTOS UTIGATION Gadock, tc. Devine Orterexwiert A

forber, the MAS ter are nat relichle enn an inate coat hifferen towels of arbores exbartas penerated
‘chdla wica brushlerg 4 gerbe) we * one

pallewt?

“ end momepccyfic plant of the MUS teste.
rx Leage (eaten EPA S1OSL9-O04 ~Carpecisan af

uaten snd Recocenendsitons. The revaka fom cht = (ERAN boven enact » ncleding nt

ye DY Eric Johor Chaghale eoneldered | Glewing contusions,

frarater mecdsode. Ths cooctation bt
(Sitoree stvepos el etizatel ey one mech ore at esr

onld ar well a3 the eae at decor racmaes Lae 1
Px Longelh At 084 Pesderel Reger Val 245 foe, 1S, Wade Anta faa
hits faberat regulation maser ai Foleo ~ et
STE) ea part ony actooned we ty oN eee TS al

Gaye coves :
Saye edo hepcion prvsdes chat “pone” eset rane A SOLES tro remmabir
pti dog nent a form ora rw foe fi mt od IE
snp re IT Tne apg Krabi ott Ts HAS tr fi tw ec mS
easel forestuable conditions, ® -
Dx cariack LOSHA §I9URIGE Asbestet

i hcdane ond doplicaties (1} Tai teciton toplct we ofl escupesionl eee

Tee in pore
Bi cr a De at ORT Sat tr fT OTE I PS

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EX Longe 33, fetter Krmoe Catt fod eetries exlating eedtlag Gasteck progeces ewstilatag arbvetet rqcercel mad
Cecipraset erent shaat Ha

pateiceter.
a ered ein cep ft, fps OM COE :

cet ET a ne aod ih alr CON OST ig ef excess oman of
ee coder crema cal, Te tee tart “The mown hom, Shagiare refer ta TECER 19401001 for formation

FEE ecctemee affered ond adaiaed ke she hearing ke septert ska rraronable, wolbewtary wert by che |
Prafeowrer eo were tt Liclary ond end mars

LAMAR COUNTY, ASBESTOS UTIGATION Garlock. tac. Devibert Order ‘@ &

exter A

Miceoviewen Septlog
Heaver Ceaccatrationt!

Sy a present & Kegte Ceci rebclonshia bereces schceiotostsinia Ges und poxeestl burnan Capi doc! tot
St pccocilngly, Cx core thoudd consider use dca a rulavestlp es edt #reable taforwtion bs es evaluation,
iii tn method wed he dcfaion acalcabte perteadeta mascsit, found a Test Method D173 ur ot :
fz dcCntion accep ofl puticicr woul enough o'pest @vough nA tren OH 14) saree The
ining pericee (oom the irgeend uf xc parice tla disaflunionl Supened during samete
Tarye usoetiat Concerursion evvin tthe TEM only a that sacle: Hf
uc eubiple tadependrn nepen are ceed from Be ew are, tad mnfers of es

by Transmlirion Electron Maras copy far Asbestos Serwenan Mornber | Concenvroniont's this mathod wet

TX Leace
pearchtA pe Ad?) Avecricsn bedunrtal Hrgteon Assaclation 404

Sone of hq texlmory of plait! winarses Loogs (and trone Mn, Hofhls ened Miltarts tr sicher at
eee eh dit platen tap eae tn thera ow acceso trated faddy menaiet ered ere OSES EE
Fecthermare, plain tft faded ta che tha cow be Torcody paforcved sclera oncticx or proparie pest reviewed
polnntific pblicatlnnt ba Jastfy are amet Wo bei aphlant ex axerecied PT Lowgo HY end 12 These articter, while
ET fina Af plammift boncan on Ce pr peed pbtihed ends ener (ef Phe comment exert

poten

ace 0-22 on Sumpting Wc" Analysis of Aupaspheres tad
"Sampling ved Anatysls of Acbesion” *

LAMAR COUNTY ASBESTOS UTIGATION Garo, toc. Ouvbvert Orer 7+ Exner A

Inany pre theta tdict wand d have wary fos te hen etempring 42 apply Suen 10 she vonced wisoow
cxtdoor, Swernal pend eternal condition expenenced fe the wor placa wie sergourg ond brushing perce powsng
PE TT sens Seat et toe bore ream

(g6 10, Baselieg Studies of Aabates Expraure Docie( Operations oad Maiticeavce eevee
A114 dept Ocoup. Eats Hoe HN) os Actichics Reatbce

Thi rudy apport io be clasddy eclared te the srndicz thom be PX Longa 19a TZ em mvadiouly above. tex
euthart Lehate the tame tee plabuifiictoce Keo oes of Babin eaten bere lt ee ooh Che
elas Fact ts ray wat tsp th Pla Come of te Nene Sea Cas don fo

fatt Recomary. Mew aporsart et. Dies and Hlondorner and the Ke
Ser econ. # ws (Orange Terex! eat Virgunda Siete Arora
= The purport of the srady was bs provide evidsnce of “pasttble” expaneres 6a dangorsur Levels of arbor
leshenas while parformlag certam malntenance dutlct be the wort place. Tale srady wet designed aa provide Lformeston
1a the aurhart 4 Chey cold design an CAM Operations & Malaemarce) progres "bused poe our exscative
‘eeorence (ettimated 1£ 30 maaepaar} bx dalgaing, Raplemereing, and evuhatrlag LM peo cram bor buliGags with
AGA .

Head mer the petpate of this wnides te preside pfarmarton hat otuld be converted t0 cet OSHA Bidex of
expature. le maieed satee. “SialaSeal taalyied sere applied wt bx bogarde Qause 10) af be measured conection
Dr toy cuntfornation ids to regular warlunors wd pera the ase oC mandlard satirical few dat wovld ocherwine be
as, Previa itodicr 6C% pallaiion daa bare domonromed tut aX palkatlos data tend ta be lognarnslly
fiertaed” : _ °

No other evidince 6f"leprormel Cutribscian® wes submited ta toe cout, we fl wet bt mex ecentted andnet *
looted ba the exlbler at shir plac Abchawgh nex specifically meretaned i the Libhy, Montara seul bp EPA being
cutendy contacted (TE Longe see above tat frst objecsint of the LPR Liber seady badacctes chet toot Ls we merchod
of conversing from the TEM direct anaiyals mechods exed be Chest sosdies 9 tht PCH index of exbesrar exporwres, The
Geert enumer chat {7th lopmorme! distribution Lr earrecty tmedereitod by the court M be the Cocmertioe method wid in
Dads siedy (PE Lange 24), char the plaints would harwe nibindecd appropiate repporting matantal. dhsen’ neck mevertel
De coer fonds te plaints hate fall ta Licharpe Baar bord of precy ond raf els as a sabsvenslating try ix
tetbfanton Davo Ralinton tandarde

In any ever Olt aod (PK Lange 24 ped bevy wary lined kd wha exempting 82 cipply it as tha verted
dadoe, pation, Sarre and Grternal condiiony epperionced ba the wird place walle soreping ant brushing geskce,
rein fain compound tewig Karte produce and nicing and tating Eellp-Ltzone joint compounds,»

DX Caviock 4, ASTM D G11 = 0, Stredend Text Pletbed for Aichorae dsbonee Caseretcation ba An bine

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Jrucnwa und of dir stbevtas fiber found ia Go sexes om tbc eigen catioe are exboularet,
La Taine method & evlesbhe fer dewrenination @fasbewiat in beh amblens (auidoo:) and building eamapheres,
Lk Thedlrect snslytica! method cxnnet be wad Wthe general partiowLate eure loading of the sample callealon-
itu ex analyred cxcecds roprostaattiy 10% deverage afitee collection Gia by perdculese eum,

ASTM A2E1-RE i rot evomtloned be tht MAS reparti, H eppeurr ke est mot witied beonese of the 1K emeraze
Fmicarlon but, 62, thit sheet hare bro maclored be the MAS reports tw as 86 explain dis marhodoleg et
‘Oiaee Eabibs Het Specticay Reviewed

nT Eahtb kt pat Pevieed aberw by the court wre deemed etcher wot to tate 54 the Deuberv/fotiroen aseet of

sehabdiy oo relearncy O° ON considered 69 be smncescardy doplrconint of ether cied exkibict

ALLLVANT TESTIMONY AND AFFIOAVITS

Widtam Becier, traascrlpt of testhentapy dase 20, 3046, .

Flare Becloar & eerobenmanal encincer, « carted indusetal Fyretenireconaliont, 197] greduace of
Paras Uninertcg wick 6S. degree aad’ formar OSHA coieplioncs afficer bs Hitewelze and Chleage from 166
Er euph 1900 sugportlag wertons explenal affices ar tall asthe nattanal affine. Ha wa called ta sastiy for the defendind,
owe: . .

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Taya wea memed Wes adapted roe Ineraarionul Seardard 150 10312 7A quality = Determination oC ssbeniat fbr ~
Dewar vate iranemiaaion eleciue roicrescapy metod” :
Mote that On, Eric dole Chaghetl. where afideve te tat forth below, w the esther of ($0 1042 He bs alsa anther ef
SD 13794 which tr 0 Corretponding Indeocrrerafer analsilcal marched torh af which were firmed by iternauonet
betiot and published i lwermasionel Standarde
LAMAR COUNTY ASBESTOS LITIGATION Garlock. tne. Dewtert Orier

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eee Cwasal really tare whe (Topher he fe, Lanyel mised tin the desea, There was nox realy & specifies referer
ade ta ce pe OC Fight aad contequeady t eetecind bused on what [sw fa me video 4 simi booking thewer
Fight and 1 wimage that U before was weet wes bring wxcd. Bog [wana ceilly sure what was aice” .
saa Tyra Righting 8 00g ted is Gre indus hy pla Comvaunizy, femay hate been aecmpted a various Binet
fae warions octigisions bat Xs pox widely used =f dont new anybody Su user Wich the exocption of Doctor
Longa.” **

soTre EFA Hocct deus te bused: wbcreer OSHAY hisorted das und thc epidontalogy & btted oo
fioce sites and irfaladion. The EP A. data rans tute ae ro tclatioashey wo epiemiolagicat dam te an aie quater
ious lndependent af epideeiclagy.” . : . °

#0. hr Be Covet Let re ack you, would you chlak wont be safe us work without rvaptrasocy or mesial .
clothing Wa cre umewphere and fn whic yov sar te oc sldeouipe Dac Longa cunt (05 Longa Jd and Jp

A Ver Att panel fict Lda my tera wichous reapiraory proven, - :

Qi (ey the Cour) Se you would go bus Gag exvmonmberu as thowe ia De. Lonige’s sideotape without special
breaching equipmeot .

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Q, Now're not an efeevea micrascepis: Hite Doctor Longs, br tic correct?
A Dehought he dexcribed biresclf us weracerlal aciecsis
he has ean expatine te leone mberascoyy, you oC Ds Lengo?

(@, Oa you work sn chereoe ecrencope? * Looe “
Kitased wa'pere a lberviory Qu x bad oe ¢Lcerron mberowcope, We were HAWLAG corified, a4 well es ALKA. ,
Q. Did you propace the taoplent . .
ALI prepared soroe. yee

Q. Yow koww that some af ane PCM Herel nate MLAS sean are ea igh ws 30 fiber pec fo deae coerce?
A. (doa believe ee eumberr* .

Qe nv UC pov ina coronene here a activigg it producing ane Alber por o=. you're mappated ta proses
Pour He hat comet

A Theft not what as cxeunton Gracie. :

9, Wig dont pou wel us whee, .

Aa cacuribon kraitit wbere an lateequene sediviey witch cannot be vallacd ont a imemecighted average Basis bs
Conducted share the eencearuton weuld exceed anc fiver per cron a JO-cinne saraple-

Q, Fair enough, And dine leet reponed Ia the midy ky IAS would excon! he crcurtiog Li Correct

DR They werent encurtion uanplen Thar pot — what Ret eying 0 expleta is indhanetal berries. The emp tcs
Rec nat callocted a Rar wey wy Compare agaist tha excursion fie. k wernt an excursion seivicy tnd therefore
came ee them eppinn sn excarzen Eanit Sood ba lnpopet . :

Q. So yov think Docu Longe ax Red whoa bre pot up bere and paid be opened che Maage and chet was toe wry

thc parker wast : .

A baer kaden De. Lesga 4 foag Gare and fa sieaply baying thet (de mo kacrw what tee conisiiag were af

Gheue packeec: Bet {bave bees ia tht indecial exretrocenent for # Wery tong tone and f hare wcrar eon she

coodiGnes Gul wre demonciated ba hae vides. * .
Tipe You sup zest 2 fie eotet Bist De, Longe ponsewbet doctored hoet Camgcs and Gurowt guakeu before

pocformiay tom sex, Got be od 09 te cowec? ” :

did aay ona tata trrebng 12 Cesings and U bere ever eecmarmered a packet of hat Ree,

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have 4 long bien af being aren pipe phan. pigs Rear, Mr fected a plumbing cooeector wed t
have boos ured th pong ender far egy entice Bc ond There done considerable work i fedhwertal
enciconeneent wich inckude pipe Geaere” .

COUNTY ASBESTOS UTIGATION ——Gertocks [ne Datere Onder : 9 5exHialy A

2G | .
Pe renal [had fa. stay frmech a the KAS sealiess which Snyoleed ten, SiMoreat types ef remorels and
eepleccerenc of gatkca and packing. Gre highest eonccntruion Gav Lecceined on a eight hour timg-mmcignied
fvernge wet D6 Mat aC te recala wary ine 07 to ange” . -

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Q. And OSHA hat sere patted a sandand feeloring 7 sichorne esbesled) Mth tripest (a he Ieuiey suandardst
fer eppoted 60 consirveiion tiandonds mloting to airborne exbariai} . °
‘A Trees corest
The cout finds hat Mia Socttar ts qualified ar wn expert be a relevace science ba reader the apiniong
ecpreeted in bis sertimonty set forth ohom, that rack caithnany ke properly corobormred and lt bath eelewent i
po accordance wit Deuba Rebinion steretard. . wh enialie
Ericdohe Chatticld, PAD, athdevit dated deanary ©2601. .
De. Chaffleld te 4 Canadian cider and « warkdecleat teteeler wih LLL ln Berural Schences and PAD, be
Coltaid Sctence from Cambridge Univerrace Ha hat mare than LS years exparieece i ward ification and ansleris of
aubaster fury ead ait Lakai x ai ‘and werar Uirouph both apical and elearon mir ateapy. He hex writer and
poblished more than 10 pucrrertewed aclenaific artlecs nclainy to arbesias winteris, her been actincty Devolved ia the
Erewlan of exces need Haadards and honored By being chosen ax Bh chained of warSeed prestiglons erqancsstor
palated wo exbemar selene, :
De, Craftele's credabiliy te an dares alrce but hax testified extensively and etclusimely for defensins ta asbcstar
caret His @fderit tates
pemot .
“Cider Chan 2 eurmise whether thar found be the alt arv evkertey Then, TEM it oot generally used ta
oeuuure perupalonal exponre ts mbeaac® :
“World-wide, occupatiocal exparure ta uicborie asbesat is mauiced by phos contr apdeal microscopy
(PCA To ary bnertctge, ne coumery bas nied. oF Ue propia Gee, trenton ekcton mixescopy
(TER for reining mostaring of eccupaioasl expouure to ticborrs ebertot_—*
Ske (ACAD measuarerecet represents an inde af cxponuce tt msbemmat THe Laden is Cirwaily retatable to pest
peanrencm which iv atiocaeed with be epdanlohgr*
4 t cin th :
Tin dic avai: made ey Me. Harfeekd aad De. Loaiga, NIOSH Hetind $422 (es opporent to ATOSH Mashod 24d
should have bem msed for the tnalyais of the aie samples This would have yielded data directly compare with
fu epldemislogical dambese, Instead they chested to use an irefervciarecufet TEM apecienen pecparacion. wt
sheretry perm ete data of pa vale becaeac there ax ae sckribic pondards Resin witch dress dala cae be
 enroared” : .
etna 1?
Tee method ches by Me, Hiceld und De. Longe ta sulyor the st fers foes
mak sradier i stace as ASTM Mashed D £25545 1chir meched) dact wx incase eppfication re tha tnatyts of
>is sample, aad & & an Tngroper tc ef the ASTM sardards, given that storms pardewlese ebcier de aurice
‘dung wat being saulyard. The reais a€ ASTM D 3733-03 we epecifeed = be ecporend bt erucuurevert, not
smueneretfec ax toed in Ge fai by We, Halil und Ox. Longe? -
Findircavernnsfer TEM tpmcimen preparviion of wichoros asbeean or sabertes-conerining murfacr duct (ar dome
doy Larne Magali ba the HAS caste! ematea large changes  ocone it to fiber slir diseovelons, peridarty
Cac ease a chryvenle, nad de meuniry Bio tise dleribucion derived from wich « preperectog bow Rok
ceeemblance te dat which calnad ba Gre mcg sarple_* :
rea «
The bnfiewct Torafer TEM mrcururcnnener made Wy Be, Hicfild and De, Congo crerefore do oot provide eetiabte
Infernution throat de Arnall exponares Surin Chee experimen.” .
pe ined . . a
SHleceeres, Idee widsh dear ttions af bc artnatos tarvcnunes reported in He, Hated and Ox, Conge's indirect
da peewsuirenicecl tet ceally chase thet exited fe tha eriginal slrbome matorial the resul repored wont

coreradier conventional physic.” .
pe Liner it
“Cemnpariane of refirecrarenufer and Circerarwater TEM tpecinn| of sic samptes collooed frome

vec talit at lensrets gathter ta the grisieal sicborne persiculete matestal (Chacfet 2000). © =
LAMAR COUNTY ASBESTOS LITIGATION. Grdnct toc Dechert Order, 1DXHOSA

ee Lest? .
“Cleat iturihatise wie in the ide rreoetings by Lacgottatield te HAS rudier PX Lange 34, 1
tre mmisheeding for the following reuions («) se Trndall effect don ext discrirainute beteven exbetuz Boos
and equx typen of panicle. The conaibation of ssbostos ta the thet Sepised fe che widen ecedrdiaps, and whether
the panicles are reapinible or soorepiruble, ue marfore wninewes (0) *.~- de-focatiag creates tn extended
Tiheminatioa source trom exch palin pource, gieing Gh evel (eet oC4 mow morn, TAL rps of demonstration
grotaly mavecpreiena du geoual amounl tnd sles ef doe Sus particter, aod ik tt therefore misbeeding *
(De, Chayieht's apiniont are carraborotadihy davails and ennatacionr ts hulependert, peer eevee tod
generally accepted sciensffic pribticatont aad pandards thax pooride # Love Of confiderere for ths cow kt his eretibiny
Furhermere, Ais apalou art fornfied by rimilarly corober ated eptiant ky wher experct wig 64 deemad credale by
this emure, The court finds thax Or. Cherfstl le qualified i 2 rolcwine schuace so vender ate wpiniend quested above eri!
thar och Splalont are Boch cefewane and retishte be eecordancy with Detbert/Robivton starter ds.

Jobe W. Spencer a(Cadark doted Juee & 2000 (arveched a CABU A ta Gatteck’s Motive te Surike Wille Leage ~

Bad Richacd Hatta an Paietiete
Me Spence ds 4 certfied intuacled kpyteaks toate effedaook states Chat Bir Vl atachend The CV mex aot bactided wich

Q. | Wharare ms requiremcner ta become « cortlied ledurotat hy sient

A. Vowhaveaa have « depres fre schences, ar wel as Give year of expartcnce doing industtal bygone
mock. nnd thea 1 for eantnadon —

Q, fatymcopbemd en tar 80T

AY Ye,

Dec be eessninacion Far cenified tndueatel bygkeaiat does the indueial kygimalst exam require thet
por dermorugws scastery 4 ht eallercion «( anahyts aCeis naples for eocupuiwes) expruure?

A ve .

Qe panicles, ecoupacioeal experaire tt asbenert .

A Nepncceuly ia pandovler, K Era very brad test because 1 « comgrebeative cord Gention, be

cencomg aries tempting end ensiyitcl procedures broadly for Ow induseria bygone Bald.
For the peepee of these feedings end conclacione tha camey maromer thet bir, Spencer fufllad chest
dene request :
The folloming i a seamary and paraphrased vecrton of ds Spencin fide
1 Tag anagr conudeceed wt otarvale dafctoat Sarvs, [nc (HKG by Or. Wim Lanse and tie, Richer! Hafield
sgatlu renewal souping hond wire beushing and alecrie wi Beushing. 9x refiecied bn PX Longe §, 4.54

2 The Spencer opinions ary orrcusted waka wealth @fraierials thr art gouralty revurntced wikia the eelevant
claw ic Commer and by poarnevetewtd ericlar that ance heen published in exevansced and pemralty
fowl.

coramnshy
recogni and guaarally aceapied scinalfic poral, .

Te nachands med bn ot HAS pet ors dames bac

5, AO laberwurtar the dolermlng flnrLnas comcerereliont are pegwicad to hve artnterd qually comerot
ee ppe the preg ef he Larecery eee che methods rer, |. 5

6 Gidiregh TEA tr ened to connection with MECISA TAL ket ole for he perpace of Hevmitione axbeteas AbeY
eee ectormer Le Lingth. C24 enlarore oe wide ad bass Ga Lit Lengeh #0 nih expect rote, wos fr Coens,
mibertes fiber ax wes axproparte dove Bache WAS bes, os

That af Tyndall Gghasng ta whe BAS tee hi nat or eccaiotte aus tal Ietane proctice ent hat clenare
eredceble for tee quarctlcalaa ef alterna asbestos fet.
The aterve sired fate end epuains careatacd bn the Sperncar effilewit eve datatted, cite « wealsh of early

serfeobte ond pemnlly scraped Handards on pearwentewed publicetloct. These alow meth the tate of other

LAMAR COUNTY ASBESTOS UTIGATION Garlock. Inc, Dewhert Grder it

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experts deemed competent by tha Court Corvodc ant Spenon'h epiaio Kr, Spencer a firund 19 be quolifuad in ¢ relevare
science 10 testify te the Epedions shown aboet wad that hast opinions ae both reltmant and retictly wnudes

Deviber Robinson standard,

De, Willem Looge terimsay a( DeskervRelinen beiceid ot Joas 4,700”

De, Lange peesarued ot the hearing with testimonit choriza ond coerincing demeanor. Hit adecational
(fetlieations end experience were inpractivt. He clains ba haere combncted business and testified folly for hock
Hainicf and dafendanis. Dr. Long's trtimaty Yawkded resonable enc this comet accepted U a face vole weed
completing snndy of all tha exhibiae, efideris wad tastlnas

Afr considerable srudy ty the covet. Became clear thet he mechadslopies clatmedt ta be iced bf MAS in che
sa reporsr wore mot follewtc Further, me peapeceibls csmmaniy of aclaniiner bx the ndewsre pecfczrions recognizer thet
mrechads aued by MAS. had althowph De, Longe elaimad shar the tes cevered the packmept of expare (ont xice feet
UIT) for paths (ramoning, hod wire beuching, elecrte wire bewehingl beealaslag Grmert (pouring), Ras produce
Muewing) and Rellyndtoort fore compound (mbzing ond eandingy, tht MAS sexe went alse dillon bn chitr fallery ta
sccoge for vor latte bee reasonably forcescable canttiom ie te pociiile pactunge exper,

*Mether tha HAS tax wes Dr, Lore effete satlfacsory explanation 0s 18 ety Last were iat conichted arden
fressentte warteg of Ut constant _ =

Rewwading Dr. Lege't tetiwary cements 8 ta he prectcrd end tg replay meslirection end eearivemern, bile a
Best Eting envon, a cree And waripparted by way respactable Gommbaniy af scenthae,
dened R Mitkette, PLD. deperiien dated June 7,208; adert dated Idey T2200, .

De, Mille bs a educates and sclenster wha daserthet Nasal os on Exviroromertad Scienstst. Ha has worked
ent writen eatencivaly abou acbattoc Ne gare his videotaped Lape tsion be this cure for tha plainth Sis on Sunt J, 2061.
Ha clales ahr br bas tested ka the post fo other plaintifis bat mo for any ecfendones. Wes erfudowit coraiea of text than
ont and ene helf poses of epiniona With sizes pagel of piachtd CX, ‘

Die, blows epalnes thee the He of Tyendal Kghetrs &t rot wcsleading ond char che MAS rete dererthy rerok by
bork PCM and TESL tle then clser'sé ona hf comcuthoted artices concerning bewit of exbertes filer relzase foom
retry “depending wa the type oC ecriviy ta which the gecken wre aebjocicd.” He faethe epives waa tha renter of tot
BLS sere Oot wary fenom Groen the water repered inthe schenciic therensce.* Kefirther describes he MLS tate
rendr ar" wach la wodersaadicg tha crlecse eC astresi Sibert fone gather emerlal” Ne coretindes shor, TEM.
sibeatar veloc are toc Rew or cere wad wre pencrally arecpeod by Ge eciccifec commen.”

+ Tht cwart ar rrur by tha Lack af proper sctenfie eorraberation, explanation ered erratotions in Epon if
Ox, bileme's op intone. He faite ar eecomeiie Ba mizing of procederes tender NIOLH 1409 ered ASTH DSIIT-IS ord
does na cite any ragreciatle scien sources la rapper of tech nord procedures. Th eretee body of work of OSHA,
TPA BIOSH and ASTH ore (moved. Riichee docs be 088 ary mare mutiarity than his enicctoiel experteres on tha acs of”
Tpmiall lithe + .

ree Indeed the cosy aenemas that chore wet proper tclencie nppor shomn fr the worwel procmares a Bice by

HAS shar re platrett mold have submitted w cagy of the coeciveratin Clied By) OF. LAD ha ble owt arch bathe
(Ct technical Janse! HY! [0-5 1915) nelaing to ox sample rode for geil activites, The court pretenses that Dr.
Mittens orticle wet mat effored inva eevdine becmas i tndd net have bean nepporiin af plate Gi’ partion,

Br, Millena alia prerertad be hls videotaped deposition with toxlminiel chartime much x the Some feshion wx
Or Lange, Le the aarte part of his tculmony Or. Mates cvedd wot romambe emaregh anon at MAS test etas 40 be
treflie Larer when Gorpronued by croct-ceaminadon Goncarnine Ot dated: Qf EOSH F400. STAD S2S54§ ond
Tyna fighning, Ait amrwsees were Comelitanaly Sethe nd Lisepanacen of bast, ret waltht thes performenee of De. Conte
Ling the haart. . .

fa Robinson of pepe 539 a repporting testimony of plabiifa expert, De, Warde that there ser a7 PH
probabllny chat Ox, Whicoratry Conchisioa ret Come et comeldered en eefacied by the coer.

The comet blrwind refoca te bcthmaony of De, hi at being bnaepficlencly convober ated 6F per reviewed
pelticatlons ond lacking ix corroboreciod wid any roxpeciallé coemenky of scleratra whe eacign the merkedalerler af
“Dee 2S (ere. Mr combined with Kis fndty mumery Om erating orreert, his epinions ar cunt crecble,

LAMAL COUNTY ASBESTOS LITIGATION Garlock. fre. Beabert Order Qen

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[Affidavit and Deposition Testimony: that - -
Were Attached to Order :
Have Been Omitted] -EXHIBIT B

EXHIBIT BSUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CLAIM

FOR THE COUNTY OF ALAMEDA

1
! JUDITH GERXE, .
i Plainciff,

NO.B37487-8

vs.

i ReandS, INC.. eC

Defendants.

DEPOSITION OF WILLIAM LONGO. Pl:-D-

: October §, 2003
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dudith Ladd -
CSR 7913
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1| of fillers. They are designed co do completely

2| different things. Friction products would make a

3] lousy gasket sealing material. and if you lined a

4 ‘prake shoe with sheet gaskets, I don't think. your-car
§ | would ever stop.

|. . So they are completely two different
7 | types of materials. But.thac's not the point. .You're
5 | gocusing on too much what was the starting material.

9 | You need to focus on what's on the clothes here. It's:

10 | chrysotile asbestos.

a1 a. My question, though;

a2 | gasket materiel softer than the brake lining material?

is, is the

13 A. Absolutely.
Ce
14 Q. It‘s a flaky, looser macerial-than

.
1s | the brake lining, isn't it?
eee

16 Aw No, it's a durable rubber material

az | thet has high strength under compression and that will

1a | work in a high temperature environment, typically 300 |

1g | degrees to 400 degrees Fahrenheit steam in a bigh

20 | pressure.

21 . But it is a softer material as it's
—

22 | designed to be in chat it‘s ductile and has some

23] flexibility to it so as the flanges compress around

24| the gasket, the gasket fills in or Flows, so to ‘speak,-

25 | any imperfections. It's completely two different

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WILLIAM E. LONGO, Ph.D.SL

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materials and they behave completely different.

Q- Did you perform chat study: yourself,
that is, the underlying gasket removal study?
; A. Yés, 1 did. -

Q. You were the one who actually used
the wire brush and other methods for removing those

gaskets?

A. | That's correct. -

Q. The other Work clothing of Gasket
Removal study is entitled Secondary Asbestos Exposure
from Work Clothing of Gaskét Removal III, Electric 7
Wire Brushing, which you brought with you today. We
were provided with two videotapes related to thet
study. Are those the only two videotapes for that
study?
A. Yes.
Q. Was there again a different
underlying gasket removal study-that- forms the, basis
for this removal or Work Clothing of Gasket Removal” .
TIT study? .
Re Yes, sir. Gasket Removal III is a
different study than Gasket Removal II. and when
these studies were performed, the clothing experiment
we had-nat finished. or had not started Gasket Removal
IV and V.

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WILLIAM &. LONGO, Ph.D.: sa

Q. When was Removal Ii done?
AL Last year.
Q. When was the underlying gasket

removal study done, the Work Clothing Removal IIr
study?

A. The Gasket Removal III study was done
jast year. [ would have to look -~ I. think this was
done in November of last year also.

Q. Have you brought with you today the
underlying gasket removal etudy or videotapes that
reYate to that study, that is, underlying to’the Wark
Clothing Removal TIT study?

A. No, I didn'c.

MR. PACKER: I vould ask that ve be
provided with those documents as well, please.

Q. My next question is, what type of
gaskets were removed in the underlying study to the
Work Clothing Removal IIf study?

A. Same type as were removed in II, same
type that was removed in IV and V. These were sheet
gaskets, mibber sheet gaskets, synthetic rubber sheet
gaskets with approximately 50, 69 percent, chrysotile.

Qa. Was there any difference in the
study, in the underlying study to.the Work Clothing

Removal ILI study, that is, in.removal of the gaskets

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WILLIAM E. LONGO, Ph.D.compered to the No, II study? °

A Yes, sir. The removal’ process was

a

using an electric wire brush instead of just a hand

wire brush.

Q. Did this electric wire brush result

in more energy and power being applied to the gaskets?

A. Yes, sir. :
a. For how long did thar study last, .
thac is, removal of the gaskets with -- the ten

gaskets with the electric wire brush?

A. °° That was not ten gaskets, it was one
very large gasket.

Qe What was the size of the gasket?

AL I think the inside diameter was about
four inches and the outside diameter was -- inside
@iameter was about five or six inches and the outside
diameter was about seven or eight inches. And-I'm
estimating now.

Q. How long did the electric wire
brushing take place on the study that -~ underlying
the Work Clothing Removal IIT study?

Ae I think the whole study was,30 or 40

minutes.
Q Was this also a Garlock gasket?
AL I think so. You can't tell who
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“ WILLIAM E. LONGO, Ph.D.author of the method. One person writes the method
“while other people take pot shots ar it. I shoulda‘c

Say that. Other folks try to help you in your mechod.

Q. Who else was on the committee with
you?

AL There's 125 people.

Q. Do. you have a list?

A. I don't have a list,-no. I£ you

join, you can join the committee, you can find ont.

Some of the main individuals who worked on it were

myself. I did most of the writing. “And then we had a

contingency of what I call people who don'€ get
involved in litigacion, people who testify for
plaincitts and a large section who testify for
defendants. Oh, and Mr. John Welsh of the Safe
Building Alliance. He was a particular help..

Q. . If you look at paragraph 6 where it
Po

eites 1.4.1, is-1.4.2-a-section.of ASTM D-5755-957

AL Yes, -sir
SO

Q. And is the peragraph I*

xead an accurate one? ‘The procedure outlined in this

test method employs an indirect sample preparation

cechnique. It is intended to disperse aggregated

asbestos inte Fundamental fibrils, fiber bundles,

clusters or matrices that can be more accurately
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Cred
WILLIAM E. LONGO, Ph.D.B

quantified by transmission electron microscopy.

However, 25 with all indirect sample preparation

techniques, the asbestos obsezved for quantification

may not represent the physical form of the asbestos as

sampled. More specifically, the procedure described

neither creates nor destroys asbestos, but it may

alter the physical form of the mineral fibers.‘

Is that an accurate reading of the

section 1.4.1 of ASTM D-57S5S-95?

aR. Yes
aE
Q. Ang turning to the’next page, is

there 2 section 5.1.1 of the ASTM standard?
R. Yes.
Q. Does that section read, "This test

method does not describe procedures or techniques

required to evaluate the safety or habitability of

puildings with asbestos-containing materials or

compliance with federal, state or Yocal regulations: or

statutes"? Is that part of the ASTM standard also?

R. Yes.
Aa__tes-
Q. You indicated that you were provided

a copy of the Spencer affidavit at some time other
than when yau were provided a copy of the Order with
Exhibit A?

AL Yes, sir.

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HILLIAM E. LONGO, Ph.D.1| information you want out of the study, the Tyndall

2| lighting gives you different information than the
3| counting. That's he same reason -- the Environmental |
4} Protection Agency now has a protocol and recommends ‘
. 5| that the use of Tyndall lighting in videotaping is
6| that the measurement itself covers the entire range of
athe study. . , ,
6} _ So you don‘t know what portion of the
g | study caused the actual exposure. Maybe it!s not all
so | the activities that a person is doing that generates
ai} the asbestos exposure. “The Tyndall lighting is you
4y 12| physically see which areas of the study may produce
& aa| more dust than others. That's the reason we use
ue | Tyndall lighting.

1s Qs But insofar as counting asbestos
A

x6 | fibers thac may be produced, you don't need the

17 | Tyndall lighting itself; is that correct?

ze] A. There's other-methods-for. that. . 1£

19] you don't want’ to see how the dust clouds are

20 | generated or the pathway of exposure or -- you don't
Le ——

21 | need that, no. *
eo

22 Q. In any of the testing that you did
23 | and the studies that you have produced today for us,
24] did the-person who had. responsibility for.counring

IE 2s|the fibers or structures perform any blind recounts?

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WILLIAM E. LONGO, Ph.D.|. attorney, or party present at the:deposition to any™

I have not and shall not offer or provide
any services or products to any party's attorney or
third party who is financing ail or part of the action

without first offering:same to all parties or their

| attorneys attending the deposition and making same

available at the same time to all parties ox their
attorneys. (Civ. Proc. Section 2025 (k} (2).}

I shall not provide any service ox product
consisting, af the deposition officer‘s notations or

comments regarding the demeanor of any witness,

perty or any party's attorney or third party who is
financing all or part of the action, nor shall I
collect any personal identifying information about the
witness as service or product to be provided to any
party or third party who is financing all or part of

the action. (Civ. prec. Section 2025(k}(3}.)  * .

Dated: October 15, 2001

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WILLIAM E. LONGO, Ph.D,1 | STATE OF CALIFORNIA ) :
) ss. !
2 COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO y

3 -

4 “1, Leah Oblinger, authorized on

5 | behale of parkley Court Reporters, registration number .
é X2008, to perform the duties as a Professional

7 Photocopier jn the State of. California, hereby certify;

a The foregoing is a true and correct copy of

9 | che original transcript of the stated proceeding.

}EXHIBIT C

EXHIBIT C12/2/01 Hansen (no expert)

1 .

2 SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA
3 COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO .
4 BEFORE THE HONORABLE ALFRED G. CHIANTELLI, JUDGE PRESIDING
5 DEPARTMENT NUMBER 503
6 . ~-000— , .
7 DONNA HANSEN AND RUSSELLGARY =)

HANSEN, oY
Bo )

- PLAINTIFFS ) NO. 321639 |

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VS. )
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ASBESTOS DEFENDANTS, ET AL, )

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DEFENDANTS } : .
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4 REPORTERS’ TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
15 WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2001
16 APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:
7 FOR PLAINTIFFS:
18 _ PAUL & HANLEY
4905 CENTRAL AVENUE, SUITE 200 -
19 RICHMOND, CA 94804
Le BY: J. BRUCE JACKSON
20 .
21 FOR DEFENDANTS:
22° GORDON & REES
275 BATTERY STREET, 20TH FLOOR
23 SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94111
| BY: THOMAS ARTHUR PACKER

24 HANK HOLMBERG
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REPORTED BY: MARIA ANTONIA TORREANG, CSR # 8600, RMR, CRR
27 OFFICIAL REPORTER
28

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1 PORTO-THERM.
2 THE COURT: I UNDERSTAND. ANYTHING ELSE?
3 MR. RUNDIN: HE DOESN'T DO ANY OF THIS CONSULTING WORK ASTO
4 AUTOMOTIVE PRODUCTS.
5 MR. PACKER: HE IS NOT.A MECHANIC,
6 THE COURT: HE'S NOT A MECHANIC. /
7 MR. PACKER: HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY EDUCATION OR TRAINING FOR
8 DOING BRAKE.WORK. :
9 THE COURT: ANYTHING ELSE?
10 MS. MCNEIL: YOUR HONOR, WE ALSO FILED A MOTION on BEHALF OF
1) HAMILTON MATERIALS TO EXCLUDE HIM BASED HE HAS NEVER WORKED WITH
12 DRYWALL TAPING MATERIALS, “THAT HIS TESTIMONY WOULD BE CUMULATIVE
8 AND LACKING FOUNDATION WITH RESPECT TO WORK THAT HE MAY itAVE—
14 BECAUSE HE'S NEVER DONE ANY AS AN INSULATOR,
5 ‘THE COURT: BECAUSE HE'S NEVER PUT UP ANY DRAW WALL?
16 MS. MCNEIL: YES. ,
17 THE COURT: ANYTHING ELSE?
18 MR. RUNDIN:. YOUR HONOR, I'D LIKE FOR THE RECORD, I'D LIKE
19 TO NOTE THAT BORG-WARNER HAS JOINT IN OTHER, DERENDANT'S MOTION
: 20 IN LIMINE.
21 THE COURT: LEY THE RECORD REFLECT EVERY SINGLE MOTION
22 BROUGHT BY ANY PARTICULAR DEFENDANT IS JOINED BY EVERY OTHER
23 DEFENDANT WITHOUT REQUESTING AN ORDER. AND SO THEY'LL ALL
24 APPLY, A RULING ON ANY MOTION WILL APPLY TO ALL SEVEN UNLESS YOU
25 INDICATE FOR YOUR OWN PURPOSES IT SHOULD NOT APPLY TO YOU.
26 SUBMITTED ON THIS ONE ON THE CHARLIE A¥ ISSUE, THE WALL
_ 27 BOARDS AND ALSO TESTIFYING AS TO BRAKES? ALL RIGHT. DENIED.
28 OKAY.

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NEXT. MOTION IN LIMINE NUMBER 21, WHICH IS OUR OPPOSITION
TO DEFENDANTS AND THERE'S SEVERAL DEFENDANTS. I SHOULD
REPRESENT, MOTION TO EXCLUDE DR. LONGO, WHICH 15 THE MOTION IN
LIMINE, AS PHRASED, IN THIS TRIAL. PLAINTIFF WILL BE CALLING
HIS COLLEAGUE, RICHARD HATFIELD, WHICH IS ALSO WITH THE
LABORATORY IN GEORGIA. THE SUBJECT OF HIS TESTIMONY 18 THE
SAME, THE MOTION 1S THE SAME. THE DEFENDANTS WANT TO EXCLUDE
RICHARD HATFIELD'S TESTIMONY AND THE VIDEOTAPES REGARDING HIS
TESTING THAT HE'S DONE ON VARIOUS PRODUCTS, INCLUDING BRICKS,
INCLUDING DRYWALL, INCLUDING CLUTCHES. AND THEY ALSQ WANT TO
EXCLUDE ANY TESTIMONY REGARDING THATTESTING,

FOR PACKERS YOUR HONOR; FOR ALLIED SIGNAL, WE FILED A

MOTION TO EXCLUDE LONGO AND HATFIELD. MAY I GIVE THE CLERK OUR
MOTIONS?

THE COURT: I ALREADY HANDLED IT IN THE LAST TRIAL. 18 THIS
DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE I JUST HAD?

MR. PACKER: ITHAS A TWIST TOIT, IF YOU WILL.

THE COURT: TELL ME WHAT THE TWISTS,

MR PACKER: THE TWIST IS THE MOTION SEEKS TO EXCLUDE, IN
ADDITION TO-THE VIDEO TAPES, HIS TESTIMONY, ASKING THE COURT TO
BEA GATEKEEPER. AND WE INCLUDED IN OUR MOTION, AT SOME LENGTH
IN THE MOTION, TO INCLUDE ANOTHER ORDER, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM A
COURT IN TEXAS BUT A TRIAL COURT WHICH DISQUALIFIED .

LONGO /HATRIELD CALLING HIS TESTIMONY.JUNK SCIENCE.

THE COURT: WAS THAT OUT OF BARKER, TEXAS?

MR. PACKER: LAMAR COUNTY.

THE COURT: BEAUMONT?

MR. PACKER: LAMAR COUNTY.

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THE COURT: 17'S NOT PRECEDENTIAL VALUE, LET ME ASK YOU
THIS: MAKE YOUR BEST PITCH FOR YOUR VIDEO OR DO YOU WANT TO
SUBMIT IT ON THE PAPERS?

MR. JACKSON: I'LL DO THIS TO SHORTCUT OUR ARGUMENTS. IF
YOU WANT METO GIVE YOU YOUR TENTATIVE, 'LL SUBMIT ON THE
‘TENTATIVE. , : :

. THE COURT: I DON'T LIKE THE VIDEOS IN. THEY DON'T GO ON
SUBSTANTIVE TESTIMONY ON THE TESTING. 1 ALLOW HIMTO TESTIFY.

MR JACKSON: ISUBMIT.ON THE TENTATIVE.

THE COURT: TENTATIVE. 'M NOT TENTATIVE HERE.

MR. JACKSON: I'M JUST SUGGESTING TO THE COURT —~

JHE COURT: NOTHING TENTATIVE ABOUT ME, HA HA:

MR.JACKSON: UNLESS.YOU'REINCLINED TO.CHANGE THAT.

THE COURT: NO, I MEAN, I WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT DOESNT
SHOW AN ABUSE OF DISCRETION. 1S THERE SOMETHING HERE IMPORTANT
THAT YOU WANT ME TO READ ON THIS NEW TWIST? I WANT'TO CONSIDER
IT. 1GOT ERASERS AT THE END OF MY PENCILS, SO SHOW IT TO ME.
1M MISSOURI, SHOW ME. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT. SHOW
IT. WHAT DO YOU HAVE? TAB WHAT. :

. MR. PACKER: 24,

THE COURT: YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE VIDEOTAPE. SO WHAT
PAGE?

MR. RUNDIN: YOUR HONOR, WALTER RUNDIN, MAY I SUBMIT A
BINDER TO THE COURT?

MR. MCNEIL: YOUR HONOR, FOR THE RECORD, 1 WOULD LIKE THE
COURT TO HAVE MY MOTION, WHICH IS.A MOTION WHICH HAS NOTBEEN

* SUBMITTED BEFORE.

THE COURT: LODGE IT, LODGE IT. SURE, OF COURSE. ARE THEY

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SIMILAR TO THESE? IS THIS ANOTHER TWIST OR....

MR. MCNEIL: NO, THINK MY CHARLIE AY MOTION IS DIFFERENT.

THE COURT: OKAY. TAKE ME 10 THE PAGE WHERE I'M GOINGTO
SEE-- WHAT PAGE IS IT? THE SIMULATION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT THAT VIDEOTAPE. THE CLOTHING SHAKE-OUT STUDIES,
WHAT ABOUTIT?

‘MR. PACKER: PAGE... PAGE 14.

MR. JACKSON: SOR