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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE NINTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
IN AND FOR ORANGE COUNTY, FLORIDA
DOMESTIC RELATIONS
DIANA K. WINKLER & CASE NO.: 2018-CA-6581
MICHAEL J. WINKLER,
Plaintiffs,
and
CHRISTOPHER P. HANCOCK et al.,
Defendants.
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MOTION TO DISMISS OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE
FOR A MORE DEFINITE STATEMENT
COMES NOW the Defendant, ANDREA AURORA MCCREARY (hereinafter
“McCreary”) , and hereby files this, her Motion to Dismiss or in the Alternative for a More
Definite Statement and states as follows:
History
1 The Plaintiffs have filed a Second Amended Complaint fourteen (14) count
Complaint.
2. Count VII is for Aiding and Abetting Breach of Fiduciary Duty is the first Count
addressed as being against McCreary.
3 Count XI is for Wrongful Act Liability under F.S. Section 621.07 and Florida Bar
Rule 4-5.1(c)(2), and mentions McCreary.
4. Count XII is for Liability Under F.F. Section 607.1407 (4), and mentions
McCreary.
5 No other Counts mentioned McCreary, and therefore they will not be addressed.
6 The instant cause of actions arises out of a legal engagement purportedly entered
into between the Plaintiffs and a legal service provider and multiple lawyers and law firms.
Specifically, the Plaintiffs allege they entered into an agreement for representation with
MORRIS AND HANCOCK (hereinafter “M&H”), I.k.a. MCCREARY AND HANCOCK, PA,
(hereinafter “MHPA”) where McCreary worked as an associate attorney. McCreary was not in
any way involved with the engagement or any contemplated or performed legal services
rendered to Plaintiff and, as an associate attorney, had no authority to act on behalf of MHPA or
make decisions about whether to make disbursements out of the firm trust account or receive
profits from said accounts.
7 At all time material hereto, McCreary worked as an associate attorney with the
law office of M&H and MHPA.
8. At all times material hereto, McCreary worked under the authority and direction
of CHRISTOPHER HANCOCK (hereinafter “Hancock”), who was the sole authority at M&H
and MHPA.
9 In the entire eighty-nine (89) page Complaint, the Plaintiffs never allege that
McCreary worked on the Plaintiffs case or entered into any attorney client privilege relationship.
10. The entire basis of the Plaintiff's case against McCreary is as follows:
a. McCreary was an alleged partner at MHPA;
b McCreary had a phone conversation with the Plaintiffs and told them after
becoming aware of their unreturned calls that she would take no action in early 2015;
Cc. McCreary knew of Hancock’s inability to practice law and failed to take
action upon being hired;
d McCreary knew of Hancock’s inability to practice law and failed to take
action upon being hired.
11. Nowhere within the four corners of the Second Amended Complaint do the
Plaintiffs allege that McCreary owed some duty to them as an individual to the Plaintiffs separate
and apart from her alleged role as a partner and her designations as “Officer” of MHPA. As a
matter of law, these factual allegations, alone, do not establish that McCreary owed any type of
duty, as an individual, to the Plaintiffs such that the Plaintiffs can pursuant its stated claims
against McCreary.!
12. As explained in detail below, even though Plaintiffs have amended its Complaints
multiple times and included a slew of new counts, it has still failed to state a valid cause of action
and detail against McCreary. Rather, Plaintiffs have merely inserted additional allegations in an
effort to manufacture a basis to purse this action against McCreary, an attorney with whom the
Plaintiffs had absolutely no relationship. Specifically, Plaintiff have added in allegations
regarding McCreary’s purported role in the firm in an attempt to expand McCreary’s duties and
obligations beyond those owed to her own clients and extend to individuals and entities with
whom she has absolutely no relationship, including the Plaintiff's. In fact, the Plaintiff's have
now added colorful language regarding an alleged conversation, the only alleged communication
with McCreary and the Plaintiffs, that go beyond the testimony/argument giving at the first
hearing.” However, the core facts set forth by the Plaintiffs remain unchanged and do not create a
legally cognizable cause of action against McCreary. Therefore, the claims asserted against
McCreary should be dismissed.
Standard of Review
Under Florida law, a complaint must contain “a short and plain statement of the ultimate facts
showing that the pleader is entitled to relief... .” Fla. R. Civ. P. 1.110(b). The complaint’s primary
' Plaintiffs also refer to the Rules Regulating the Florida Bar several times throughout the Second Amended
Complaint in support of its assertion that the Defendants had a duty to ensure the HANCOCK was competent to
practice law. However, Florida law is clear that the ethical duties imposed by the Florida Bar do not create a legal
duty on the part of lawyers, the violation of which would lead to civil liability. See R. Regulating Fla. Bar 4, pmble.;
Greenwald v. Eisinger, Brown, Lewis & Frankel, P.A., 118 So. 3d 867, 871-72 (Fla. 3d DCA 2013); Beach Higher
Power Corp. v. Rekant, 832 So. 2d 831, 833 n.2 (Fla. 3d DCA 2002) (noting that the Rules of Professional Conduct
clearly provide that they are not to be utilized to determine attorney liability); Smith v. Bateman Graham, P.A., 680
So. 2d 497, 498 (Fla. Ist DCA 1996); see also Lane v. Sarfati, 676 So. 2d 475, 476 (Fla. 3d DCA 1996) (“I stress
that the Rules of Professional Conduct are meant solely to provide ethical guidelines and for utilization in Florida
Bar disciplinary proceedings”) (Gersten, J., concurring); Elkind v. Bennett, 958 So. 2d 1088, 1091 (Fla. 4th DCA
2007) (recognizing that one must look to the substantive law to determine whether an attomey owes a legal duty to
a client).
Attached is the transcript of the initial proceeding to dismiss— see page 18 line 14-25 and pg 10 line 1-5.
purpose “is to advise the [c]ourt and the defendant of the nature of a cause of action asserted by the
plaintiff.” See Connolly v. Sebeco, Inc., 89 So. 2d 482, 484 (Fla. 1956) (emphasis removed). This
requires that a plaintiff “allege ultimate facts establishing each and every essential element of a
cause of action . . . .” See Sanderson v. Eckerd Corp., 780 So. 2d 930, 933 (Fla. 5th DCA 2001).
“[W]here the elements of a cause of action are not pled in the complaint, they may not be
inferred by the context of the allegations.” Jd. (finding a failure to state a valid cause of action
where essential elements to causes of action had not been pled). Florida’s pleading standards also
mandate that “[a]ll averments of a claim . . . be made in consecutively numbered paragraphs, the
contents of each of which shall be limited as far as practicable to a statement of a single set of
circumstances,” and that “[e]ach claim founded upon a separate transaction or occurrence . . . be
stated in a separate count . . . when a separation facilitates the clear presentation of the matter set
forth.” See Fla. R. Civ. P. 1.110(f).
A motion to dismiss a complaint requests that the trial court “determine whether the
complaint properly states a cause of action upon which relief can be granted and, if it does not, to
enter an order of dismissal.” Nero v. Cont’l Country Club R.O., Inc., 979 So. 2d 263, 267 (Fla.
5th DCA 2007) (citing Huet v. Mike Shad Ford, Inc., 915 So. 2d 723, 725 (Fla. Sth DCA 2005)).
Tf the complaint fails to state a valid “cause of action upon which relief can be granted,” the court
is required to enter an order of dismissal. See Fox v. Prof] Wrecker Operators of Fla., Inc., 801
So. 2d 175, 178 (Fla. Sth DCA 2001) (citations omitted) (explaining that “[t]he question for the
trial court to decide is simply whether, assuming all the allegations in the complaint to be true,
the plaintiff would be entitled to the relief requested”); see also Fla. R. Civ. P. 1.140(b)(6). “If a
pleading to which a responsive pleading is permitted is so vague or ambiguous that a party
cannot reasonably be required to frame a responsive pleading, that party may move for a more
definite statement before interposing a responsive pleading.” Fla. R. Civ. P. 1.140(e). Moreover,
“[a] party may move to strike or the court may strike redundant, immaterial, impertinent, or
scandalous matter from any pleading at any time.” Jd. at 1.140(f).
ERISA Preempts and Governs the Plaintiffs’ Claims Against McCreary
McCreary joins in the Hyatt Legal Motion to Dismiss filed January 2, 2020, as it relates
to ERISA and employee benefit plans and the Complaint and by reference McCreary adopts the
Hyatt Legal arguments set forth in said Motion to Dismiss as if fully set forth herein. To the
extent that the Counts against McCreary relate to the services and relationship created by the
employee benefits plan of Hyatt Legal, the matter should be dismissed as part of an ERISA-
controlled plan regardless of the name attached to it.
Count VII - Time Barred by Statute of Limitations - Fails to State a Cause of Action
Count VII purports to set forth a cause of action against McCreary for aiding and abetting
Hancock in his purported breaches of fiduciary duty to the Plaintiffs. Count VII is nothing more
than a redressed argument for legal malpractice that was previously dismissed by the Court.
Even if not already preempted by ERISA, the cause of action must be dismissed as it is time
barred and/or fails to state a cause of action.
The two-year limitation period under Florida Statutes § 95.11(4)(a) applies a professional
negligence claim. Here, the Plaintiffs’ claim for aiding and abetting breach of fiduciary is
tantamount to a professional malpractice claim. The Plaintiffs’ argument center around
McCreary’s hiring, McCreary’s telephone conversation, and McCreary’s alleged silence until she
left the firm. All of these instances are related to the employment of McCreary at MHPA and her
professional relationship to Hancock. As such, this is nothing more than a professional
malpractice claim and should be dismissed.
The elements of a claim for legal malpractice are (1) employment of the lawyer; (2) the
lawyer’s neglect of a reasonable duty; and (3) loss to the client proximately caused by the
lawyer’s negligence. See Bolves v. Hullinger, 629 So.2d 198, 200 (Fla. 5th DCA 1993). To be
liable for legal malpractice arising out of litigation, the attorney must first have a duty and then
the neglect of such duty be the proximate cause of the adverse outcome of the underlying action
which results in damage to the client. Silverstrone vs. Edell, 721 So.2d 1173 (Fla. 1998). A mere
causal connection is insufficient, Florida law requires that a Plaintiff make a factual showing that
a defendant’s actions foreseeably caused the specific harmed alleged. Williams v. Davis, 974 So.
2d 1052, 1056 (Fla. 2007); see also Bankers Tr. Realty, Inc. v. Kluger, 672 So. 2d 897, 898 (Fla.
3d DCA 1996) (holding that a plaintiff must allege facts “that support acausal connection
between the alleged acts .. . and the alleged damages defendant). Under the theory of vicarious
liability “The acts of an agent, performed within the scope of his real or apparent authority, are
binding upon his principal.” Dingle v. Dellinger, 134 So. 3d 484, 492 (Fla. 5th DCA 2014)
(citing Aema Ins. Co. v. Holmes, 59 Fla. 116, 52 So. 801, 802 (1910)). “The essential elements
necessary to establish an actual agency relationship are (1) acknowledgment by the principal that
the agent will act for him, (2) acceptance by the agent of the undertaking, and (3) control by the
principal over the agent's actions.” Roman v. Bogle, 113 So. 3d 1011, 1016 (Fla. Sth DCA 2013).
Here, the Plaintiffs’ fail to sufficiently plead the existence of an attorney/client relationship
between the Plaintiffs and McCreary. Furthermore, the Plaintiffs have alleged a separate count
for any liability based on Fla. Stat. § 621.07. Should Count VII be determined to be a pleading
for general negligence, it fails to plead the existence of a duty that was allegedly breach by
McCreary.
A cause of action accrues when the last element constituting the cause of action occurs.
Fla, Stat. § 95.031(1). The period of limitations for an action for professional malpractice
commences when the plaintiff either discovers the cause of action or should have discovered the
cause of action with the exercise of due diligence. Fla. Stat. § 95.11(4)(a). Here, the Plaintiffs
allege that “[u]pon her hiring to work at the M&H law firm...Defendant McCreary had
knowledge of the foregoing breach of fiduciary duty committed by Hancock against the
[Plaintiffs].” Looking at the allegations relating to the breach, the Plaintiffs’ acknowledge that
McCreary was hired in early 2015 and was already hired by the time of their hearing on May 28,
2015.3 The Plaintiffs’ allege that a conversation took place between themselves and McCreary in
“early to mid-2015” by which McCreary learned of Hancock’s actions. The Complaint was filed
on June 11, 2018. As such, the claims for aiding and abetting are time barred. To the extent the
Court find the Plaintiff's dates to be vague, McCreary requests the Court order the Plaintiffs’ to
Amend their Complaint to be more specific as to allow McCreary to defend herself and know the
counts against her.
Should the Plaintiffs’ argue that the four-year statute of limitations apply due to their
being a lack of privity, Count IV should be dismissed as again, being preempted by ERISA, as it
relates to a employee benefits plan. Furthermore, should the Plaintiffs’ argue that ERISA it not
be preempted by ERISA yet still no privity existed, the Plaintiffs themselves contradict said
argument by the third prong of the elements required and by arguing that this is not a
professional malpractice claim.
In Florida, a cause of action for aiding and abetting requires “(1) an underlying violation
on the part of the primary wrongdoer; (2) knowledge of the underlying violation by the alleged
aider and abett[o]r; and (3) the rendering of substantial assistance in committing the wrongdoing
by the alleged aider and abettor.” Asokan v. Am. Gen. Life Ins. Co., 302 F. Supp. 3d 1303, 1312
(M.D. Fla. 2017) (quoting Lawrence v. Bank of Am., N.A., 455 Fed.Appx. 904, 906 (11th Cir.
2012) (per curiam)).
3 See Second Amended Complaint pg 26 and 27 liens 115 — 117.
Here, the Plaintiffs have failed to adequately plead the elements of the cause of action.
Simply including appropriate buzzwords in their Second Amended Complaint, such as that
McCreary supposedly had “knowledge” of Hancock’s breaches merely by being employed, or
“substantially assisted” in those alleged breaches by Hancock, but without pleading any facts
supporting these legal conclusions is insufficient to maintain the cause of action.
In fact, the only instance in the entire 89-page complaint regarding actions by McCreary
was an alleged phone conversation between the Plaintiffs’ and McCreary. At the first
proceeding, the transcript alleges a conversation where McCreary informed the Plaintiffs of
Hancock’s message and he was very busy. In the Amended Complaint, there is no mention of
this conversation. In the Second Amended Complaint, the Plaintiffs in two separate areas state
that McCreary stated in response to the Plaintiff's informing her of missed calls “that she did not
have time to worry about such things” and later changed the response to “she would take no
action with regard to the same”. These inconsistencies demonstrate the vagueness and lack of
facts to support a legal conclusion. Furthermore, the Plaintiffs have failed to demonstrate how
McCreary had knowledge of Hancock’s breaches when the Plaintiffs themselves state that the
only thing McCreary had knowledge of was Hancock’s missed calls. The Plaintiffs fail to plead
any example of McCreary having knowledge regarding their case other than unreturned calls.
The Plaintiffs fail to plead that knowledge of missed calls substantially assisted the wrong doer.
Furthermore, the Plaintiffs only plead a blanket statement that McCreary had knowledge of
Hancock’s actions because she was employed there. Every other Defendant at some point had
interaction with the Plaintiffs and details are given as to their interactions and how the interaction
connected to the damage done by Hancock. The Plaintiffs’ only action alleged in this Count
against McCreary is her employment and knowledge of unreturned calls without any further
explanation of a nexus to her damages. Given the foregoing, even if not already preempted by
ERISA, the Winkler’s count against McCreary for aiding and abetting must be dismissed for
failure to state a cause of action.
Wrongful Act Liability Under Fl. Bar Rule 4-5.1 (c)(2) and violation of Fla. Stat. § 621.07
As noted by Mr. Morris, the Plaintiffs’ have failed to allege any direct violations under
Florida Bar Rule 4-5.1(c)(2) by McCreary, directly or indirectly. Nor have they plead any duty or
relationship created between themselves and McCreary. Furthermore, violations of the Florida
Bar Rules itself give rise to a cause of action against a lawyer as they are not designed to be a
basis for civil liability. As such, McCreary will move forward with the notion that the cause of
action is a wrongful act liability under Fla. Stat. § 621.07.
Fla. Stat. § 621.07 holds officers and employees personally liable and accountable for
negligent and wrongful acts or misconduct committed by any person under that person’s direct
supervision and control. However, it would still be based on a cause of action based on the
negligent and wrongful acts or misconduct. The Plaintiffs point to Legal Malpractice and Breach
of Fiduciary Duty. As mentioned above, the Legal Malpractice count and the Breach of
Fiduciary Duty Count are both two-year statute of limitations based on profession misconduct
and thus are governed and preempted by ERISA as it is connected to the employee benefit plan.
As mentioned above, any and all actions taken by Hancock prior to June 11, 2016 are barred by
the statute of limitations. Should the Plaintiffs’ argue the four years statute of limitations should
apply as there was no privity, the Complaint against is governed and preempted by ERISA.
Liability Under Fila. Stat. § 607.1407(4)
The Plaintiffs allege that Hancock’s firm was improperly dissolved and that under
information and belief, everyone who worked there as a partner and all other elements required
under Fla, Stat. § 607.1407. To say artfully, every element of the claim is plead without an
ounce of detailed facts beyond mere pleadings. At no point do the Plaintiff speak about notice
give to creditors, or of filings, or of any of the actual requirements for a business to dissolve.
Instead, the Plaintiffs make blanket allegations. The Plaintiffs should be required to point to at
least basic knowledges and allegations rather than blanket hope statements. Florida pleadings
requirement require at least a basic level of facts beyond a basic pleading of elements.
WHEREFORE, the Defendant, AURORA MCCREARY, respectfully prays this
Honorable Court grant her Motion to Dismiss and grant such other and further relief as the Court
may deem just, proper and appropriate.
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I HEREBY CERTIFY that a true and correct copy of the foregoing has been furnished to:
T. Scott Tufts (stufts@cplspa.com); John W. Zielinski, Esq. (john@nejamelaw.com),
Christopher Hancock (225 South Westmonte Drive, Altamonte Springs, FL, 32714); Luxus
Legal, LLC (225 South Westmonte Drive, Altamonte Springs, FL, 32714); Hancock &
Associates, P.A..(225 South Westmonte Drive, Altamonte Springs, FL, 32714); Hancock Law
Group, P.A. (225 South Westmonte Drive, Altamonte Springs, FL, 32714); Hyatt Legal Plans of
Florida, Inc, (jlandau@shutts.com and jmeagher@shutts.com); Sean McDonough, Esq.
(sean.mcdonough@wilsonelser.com) this 20" day of February, 2020.
/s/ Aurora McCreary, Esquire
AURORA MCCREARY, ESQUIRE
Florida Bar #: 110400
DAMON WEISS
Florida Bar # 148202
1059 Maitland Center Commons Blvd.
Maitland, FL 32751
Phone: (407) 843-3990
Attorney/Defendant
amccreary@wgworl.con
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Filing # 84900975 E-Filed 02/13/2019 08:43:54 PM
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE NINTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT OF FLORIDA
IN AND FOR ORANGE COUNTY
DIANA K. WINKLER &
MICHAEL J. WINKLER, Case No.: 48-2018-CA-006581
Plaintiffs,
vs.
CHRISTOPHER P. HANCOCK et all.
Defendants,
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PLAINTIFFS’ NOTICE OF FILING TRANSCRIPT
Plaintiffs Diana & Michael Winkler give notice of filing the transcript of the hearing held
on January 7" 2019.
/s/ Diana K. Winkler
Diana K. Winkler - Pro Se
/s/ Michael J. Winkler
Michael J. Winkler - Pro Se
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
Thereby CERTIFY that on the 13 of February 2019 a copy of the foregoing has been
furnished to the following parties, either electronically by email through the Florida E-Portal.
Defendants:
Jeffrey M. Landau & John E. Meagher
Attomey for Hyatt Legal Plans of Florida, Inc.
Shutts & Bowen LLP
200 South Biscayne Blvd, Suite 4100
Miami, Florida 33131
jlandau@shutts.com
jmeagher@shutts.com
Sean M. Mcdonough
Attorney for Defendants Jennifer Engler & The Orlando Law Group
Wilson Elser Moskowitz Edelman & Dicker LLP
111 North Orange Avenue, Suite 1200
Orlando, Florida 32801
sean.mcdonough@wilsonelser.com
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Aurora Mccreary
1059 Maitland Center Commons Blvd.
Maitland, FL 32751
amecreary@wgworl.com
Michael E. Morris
Law Office of Michael E. Morris
1060 Woodcock Road
Orlando, Florida 32803
memorrislaw@gmail.com
Christopher P. Hancock &
Hancock & Associates, P.A. & Luxus Legal, LLC
225 S. Westmonte Drive, Suite 1050
Altamonte Springs, FL 32714
lexuslegal@gmail.com
/s/ Diana K. Winkler
Diana K. Winkler, & Michael J. Winkler - Pro Se
10908 Dominico Street
Orlando, FL 32825
Email: DianaK Winkler@gmail.com
(407) 267-1397
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Diana K. Winkler and Michael J. Winkler vs Christopher P. Hancock, et al.
HONORABLE CHAD K. ALVARO on 01/07/2019
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE
NINTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, IN
AND FOR ORANGE COUNTY, FLORIDA
CASE NO.: 2018-CA-006581-0
DIANA K. WINKLER and
MICHAEL J. WINKLER,
Plaintiffs,
vs.
CHRISTOPHER P. HANCOCK;
LUXUS LEGAL, LLC; HANCOCK
& ASSOCIATES, P.A.;
ANDREA A. MCCREARY;
MICHAEL E. MORRIS; LAW OFFICE
10 OF MICHAEL E. MORRIS, P.A.;
HYATT LEGAL PLANS OF FLORIDA, INC.;
ii JENNIFER ENGLERT; and THE ORLANDO
LAW GROUP,
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Defendants.
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15 HEARING BEFORE THE
HONORABLE CHAD K. ALVARO
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17 DATE TAKEN Monday, January 7, 2019
18 TIME: 3:05 p.m.
19 PLACE: Orange County Courthouse
425 N. Orange Avenue
20 Hearing Room 1100.01
Orlando, Florida 32801
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22 REPORTED BY: Christine L. Price, RPR
and Notary Public
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APPEARANCES:
Appearing on behalf of the Plaintiffs:
DIANA K. WINKLER, PRO SE
10908 Dominico Street
Orlando, Florida 32825
dianawinkler4731@gmail.com
Appearing on behalf of the Defendant,
Andrea A. McCreary:
A. AURORA McCREARY, ESQUIRE
Weiss, Grunor, Barclay & Barrett
1059 Maitland Center Commons Boulevard
Maitland, Florida 32751
amccreary@wgworl.com
10 Appearing on behalf of the Defendants,
Michael E. Morris and Law Office of Michael
11 E. Morris, P.A.:
12 MICHAEL E. MORRIS, ESQUIRE
Law Office of Michael E. Morris
13 1060 Woodcock Road
Orlando, Florida 32803
14 memorrislaw@gmail.com
15 Appearing on behalf of the Defendant,
Hyatt Legal Plans of Florida, Inc.:
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JEFFREY M. LANDAU, ESQUIRE
17 Shutts & Bowen, LLP
200 S. Biscayne Boulevard
18 Suite 4100
Miami, Florida 33131
19 jlandau@shutts.com
20 Appearing on behalf of the Defendants,
Jennifer Englert and The Orlando Law Group:
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SEAN M. MCDONOUGH, ESQUIRE
22 Wilson, Elser, Moskowitz,
Edelman & Dicker, LLP
23 111 N. Orange Avenue, Suite 1200
Orlando, Florida 32801
24 sean .mcdonough@wilsonelser.com
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PROCEEDINGS
THE COURT: Okay. We are here on
Case No. 2018-CA-6581. Winkler and Winkler versus
Hancock. I'll go around the room and take
appearances starting with the Plaintiff, please.
MS. WINKLER: Diane Winkler.
MS. MCCREARY: Aurora McCreary.
MR. LANDAU: Jeffrey Landau of Shutts & Bowen
on behalf of Hyatt Legal.
10 MR. McDONOUGH: Sean McDonough on behalf of
11 Jennifer Englert and The Orlando Law Group.
12 MR. MORRIS: Michael Morris.
13 THE COURT: Okay. And my understanding is that
14 there's been a bankruptcy petition filed by
15 Mr. Morris; is that accurate?
16 MR. MORRIS: That is correct, Your Honor.
17 I filed a Chapter 13 and so there is a stay as to me
18 individually.
19 THE COURT: Okay. So any matter set with
20 respect to Mr. Morris will not go forward by virtue
21 of the bankruptcy stay and that specifically
22 includes Mr. Morris's Motion to Dismiss and Motion
23 to Quash.
24 So my understanding and my review of the docket
25 is that that leaves Ms. McCreary's Motion to
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Dismiss, the Englert/Orlando Law Group's Motion to
Dismiss, and Hyatt's Motion to Set Aside the Clerk's
Default.
Does that sound about right to everyone?
MS. McCREARY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. Who noticed the hearing
first?
MR McDONOUGH: Mr. Morris did actually.
THE COURT: Okay. Who noticed it second?
10 MR McDONOUGH: That would be me, Your Honor.
11 THE COURT: Are you ready to proceed, Counsel?
12 MR. McDONOUGH: Yes, I am, your Honor.
13 THE COURT: Okay. Go right ahead.
14 MR. McDONOUGH: So unfortunately for -- I mean,
15 Ms. Winkler and her husband have had some
16 unfortunate luck in her experience in her mind with
17 attorneys regarding a mortgage foreclosure action
18 that was eventually resolved well before any of the
19 attorneys involved in this case were.
20 This is a legal malpractice action basically
21 she's bringing and I'm going to give you the summary
22 of the facts of the underlying action.
23 So she entered into a settlement agreement with
24 the bank. And subsequent to that the bank reneged
25 on that. And so she hired Jennifer Englert to come
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in and fix that problem.
And Jennifer Englert proceeded to fix that
problem, but an order was never entered. And as a
result -- actually there were orders going back and
forth, but eventually the bank entered a -- proposed
an order to the judge without noticing Ms. Englert
or Ms. Winkler, basically ex parte.
And so then the Winklers were faced with I've
got an order that doesn't say what the Court ruled
10 upon and I need to get that order corrected.
11 When you read Ms. Winkler's complaint, it's
12 clear that up to that point in time Ms. Englert has
13 done everything she asked her to do. She has gone
14 ahead and got the hearing, got the ruling she
15 wanted.
16 It's just that the bank went in and filed an
17 ex parte order that was incorrect and the new judge
18 didn't know any better -- I mean, didn't know what
19 was going on and he entered the order. And so at
20 this point in time, you know, we're looking at all
21 four corners here.
22 At some point in time Ms. Winkler and
23 Ms. Englert ceased to have an attorney/client
24 representation. But she still has this problem of
25 having an incorrect order being entered. And she
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goes and hires another attorney -- or firm, Morris
and Hancock.
She learns from that firm they have one year
from the date that that order was entered to move to
vacate the order and get it corrected.
And, in fact, that new law firm, Morris and
Hancock, file on the last day of the year the motion
to vacate that incorrect order.
THE COURT: In your mind was there a clear
10 termination by Ms. Englert of her representation of
11 the Winklers?
12 MR. McDONOUGH: Well, you wouldn't be able to
13 know that from the four corners of the complaint.
14 So to answer your question, for the Motion to
15 Dismiss purposes, no, she doesn't allege that
16 there's a clear-cut end of the representation.
17 However, my argument would be as soon as she
18 hired Morris and Hancock to do this, she abandoned
19 her representation -- the representation by
20 Ms. Englert.
21 THE COURT: Okay. Is there a substitution of
22 counsel in the court file in that case?
23 MR. McDONOUGH: No, I don't think there is.
24 But they proceed to go on with that. And I
25 don't want to belabor all the points about how
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eventually Mr. Hancock does not go and actually get
that motion to vacate the order heard, but there are
some appellate proceedings on that issue.
And eventually Ms. Winkler goes through all the
appellate remedies she can. About two years and
fifteen days before she filed this lawsuit, she gets
her motion for rehearing denied at the DCA level.
About on -- I think it was May 23rd, and she filed
this lawsuit on June 17th, I believe. Two years
10 plus later.
11 So these are the two arguments I have for
12 Ms. Englert and The Orlando Law Group. One, when
13 she hired another attorney, just assume that
14 whatever Ms. Englert -- let's say Ms. Englert did do
15 something wrong and didn't get that order vacated
16 after the bank wrongfully sent that order in. She
17 still had a year left to fix that. And she went
18 ahead and got an attorney to go ahead and fix that.
19 And she had plenty of time with that other attorney
20 to fix that.
21 So when that happened, that becomes a
22 subsequent -- if the new attorney doesn't do it
23 right, that becomes a subsequent -- that becomes an
24 intervening cause that obviates any liability of
25 Ms. Englert.
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And then the other major argument, Your Honor,
is going to be because she filed the lawsuit two
years plus from the time that she had her motion for
rehearing denied in the DCA level, she filed this
action too late, barred by the statute of
limitations.
THE COURT: Is there anything in the four
corners of the complaint that demonstrates the date
of the accrual of the malpractice claim, meaning the
10 denial of the motion for rehearing?
11 MR. McDONOUGH: That's a good question. No,
12 and that's a deficiency, not to our argument, but
13 rather to the complaint.
14 THE COURT: Doesn't that determine whether or
15 not I can address it on a Motion to Dismiss?
16 MR. McDONOUGH: Well, yes and no. As it is
17 now, based on her allegations, the statute of
18 limitations would -- the accrual would be back even
19 sooner.
20 I just -- knowing that there was more appellate
21 work done, I did go outside the four corners of the
22 complaint and say, "well, this doesn't even make any
23 difference in filing my motion because if the
24 rehearing was within two years, then this