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1 KELLY M. KLAUS (State BarNo. 161091)
kelly.klaus@mto.com
2 BRYAN H. HECKENLIVELY (State Bar No. 279140)
bryan.heckenlively@mto.com
3 ROSE LEDA EHLER (State Bar No. 296523)
Rose.Ehler@mto.com
4 MUNGER, TOLLES & OLSON LLP FILED/ENDORSED
560 Mission Street
5 Twenty-Seventh Floor
San Francisco, Califomia 94105-2907 DEC 2 7 2021
6 Telephone: (415)512-4000
Facsimile: (415) 512-4077 By:. 1. Romo
Deputy Clerk
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Attomeys for Proposed Intervenor
8 National Fire Protection Association, Inc.
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LOUIS Y. LEE (State Bar No. 315753)
10 louis.lee@morgartiewis.com
MORGAN, LEWIS & BOCKIUS LLP
11 One Market, Spear Street Tower
San Francisco, CA 94105-1596
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J. KEVIN FEE (admitted pro hac vice)
13 kevin.fee@morgartiev^s.com
JANE W. WISE (admitted pro hac vice)
14 jane.wdse@morgaitiewis.com
MORGAN, LEWIS & BOCKIUS LLP
15 1111 Permsylvania Ave. NW
Washington, DC 20004-2541
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Attomeys for Proposed Intervenor
17 Intemational Code Coimcil, Inc.
18 SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
19 COUNTY OF SACRAMENTO
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21 Public.Resource.Org., Inc., CaseNo. 34-2021-80003612
22 Petitioner, Declaration of Bryan H. Heckenlively
23 vs. Filed In Support of Interveners' Brief in
Opposition to the Petition for a Writ of
24 Califomia Office of Administrative Law, and Mandate
the California Building Standards
25 Commission, Date: January 21, 2022
Time: 1:30 p.m.
26 Respondents. Dept.: 27
Judge: Hon. Steven M. Gevercer
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Action Filed: March 17. 2021
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Declaration of Bryan H. Heckenlively ISO Opposition to PRO's Petition for a Writ of Mandate
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DECLARATION OF BRYAN H. HECKENLIVELY
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I, Bryan H. Heckenlively, declare as follows:
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1. I am an attomey at Munger, Tolles & Olson LLP and counsel of record for Plaintiff
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National Fire Protection Association, Inc. ("NFPA") in this matter. The contents of this
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declaration are based on my personal knowledge from my investigation and that of attomeys and
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professionals in my law firm working at my direction. If called as a witness, I could and would
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testify competently to the facts in this declaration.
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2. Attached as Exhibit A to this declaration is a tme and conect copy of Carl
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Malamud's Testimony, "An Edicts of Govemment Amendment," before the House Judiciary
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Committee, Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Intemet Subcommittee on January 14, 2014,
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which I accessed and dowrtioaded from °
This confhct edso extends to the federal level. When the Office of the Federal Register accepted a pubhc
petition to increase avaUeibihty of stemdards incorporated by reference, they ultimately responded that
"we agree with the petitioners that our regulations need to be updated, however the petitioners
proposed changes to our regulations that go beyond our statutory authority."'"' Likewise, the
Administrative Conference of the United States, while giving a passing nod to the constitutional
provisions of equal protection and due process noted that "there is some ambiguity in current law
regarding the continuing scope of copyright protection for materieds incorporated into regulations" and
then declined to "attempt to resolve the questions of copyright law."i02
The Administrative Conference of the United States, the Office of the Federal Register, the Office of
Management and Budget, and the Depeurtment of Transportation have aU wrestied with this issue, but
their hands are tied by contradictory pohcies such as those advanced in OMB Circular A-119, which
states "if a voluntary standard is used emd pubhshed in an agency document, your agency must observe
and protect therightsof the copyright holder and any other similar obhgations."'03 To be very clear, this
pohcy does not preclude an agency and a standards development organization voluntarily making a
stemdard available as required by law and pubhc pohcy, but the clause has been seized upon by those
wishing to protect their current mode of operation.
It is ironic that the Incorporation by Reference mechanism has been used as a way of keeping the law
under wraps. IBR became part of federal law as part of the landmark 1966 amendments to the
Administrative Procedures Act (APA) in a bill entitled "Clarifying and Protecting the Right ofthe Pubhc to
Information."'"* The bill was based on the fact that while the original 1946 APA was based upon "the
theory that administrative operations and procedures are pubhc property which the general pubhc,
rather than a few speciahsts or lobbyists, is entitled to know" in reahty, the APA had become an "excuse
for withholding. "105
Congressman Moss spent 11 years working tirelessly on these amendments, stating that "inherent in the
right offireespeech and offireepress is therightto know."'"3 Congressman Moss was joined in this
bipartisem effort by Congressman Donald Rumsfeld, who stated that "it is our intent that the courts
interpret this legislation broadly, as a disclosure statute and not as an excuse to withhold information
from the pubhc."'"? Congressman Rumsfeld was joined by Congressmem Bob Dole, who stated "in a
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democracy, the pubhc must be weU informed if it is to intelhgentiy exercise the franchise."'"3 The
legislation passed the House unanimously by a vote of 307 to 0.
This legislation had as part and peurcel of disclosure arightto copy. The accompanying report stated
"federal agency records which are avaflable for pubhc inspection also must be aveuleible for copying,
since therightto inspect records is of httle value without therightto copy them for future reference. "'"9
When the Office of the Federal Register implemented these provisions, it stated copies of any materials
incorporated by reference must be "readily obtained with maximum convenience to the user."""
A clear statement of these issues, and the overriding pohcy consideration that the law must be aveiilable
to an informed citizenry, was pubhshed by the U.S. Copyright Office in its official statement of pohcy:
Edicts of govemment, such as judicial opinions, administrative rulings, legislative enactments,
pubhc ordinemces, and similar official legal documents are not copyrightable for reasons of pubhc
pohcy. This apphes to such works whether they are Federal, State, or loced as well as to those of
foreign governments.'"
This clear and compelhng statement reflects long-standing Copyright Office pohcy that "material as the
laws and govemmental rules emd decisions must be freely avaUed3le to the pubhc and made known as
widely as possible; hence there must be no restriction on the reproduction and dissemination of such
documents.""2
As this Committee considers revisions to the Copyright Act, there is one simple chemge that would medce
a world of difference to the functioning of our system of govemment, which is to specify, as the Copyright
Office stated, that "edicts of govemment... eire not copyrightable for reasons of pubhc pohcy." This
amendment to the copyright act was recently endorsed in a petition signed by 115 of the leading law
librarians and law professors in the country, and is included as an appendix to this testimony. "3
This simple chemge would make it clear that the law belongs to the people. If we give those without great
means a substandard web site as their only access to the law, we have put a poU teix on access to justice.
When we require a hcense to speak the law, we have made a mockery of freedom of speech. When we
deliberately restrict access to the law—^including the pubhc seifety codes that protect our homes,
famihes, and workplaces—^we have violated thefiindamentalprinciple of the mle of law that underpins
our democracy.
The Federal Register came about because regiUations were being created but the pubhc had no means
of knowing what those regulations were." * In the 1936 hearings that led to the passage of the Federal
Register Act, Congressman D.J. Driscoll reminded this Committee ofthe Emperor Cahgula, "who tacked
his edicts so high on the walls of the Forum that nobody could read them and then punished the people
for violations of the edicts."' 's
Professor Erwin Griswold of Harvard Law School, at the prodding of Justice Brandeis, wrote the semined
paper that led to the passage ofthe act."3 In his testimony,"? he reminded this Committee ofthe words of
Jeremy Bentham:
We hear of tyremts, and those cmel ones; but whatever we may have felt, we have never heard of
anyfiruantin such thought cruel, as to punish men for disobedience of laws and orders which he
has kept themfiromthe knowledge of. "3
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In introducing the Senate version of the 1966 amendments to the Administrative Procedure Act, Senator
RusseU B. Long quoted the words of James Madison, who was chairman of the committee which drafted
the First Amendment:
Knowledge vvill forever govem ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own
governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives. A popular government
without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a
tragedy or perhaps both."9
That efforts to pubhsh edicts of gbvemment in the United Stiates have become the subject of threats, suits
—and even the threat of jaU—is a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both. Congress cem meike it cleeur that the
law belongs to the people and we edl have therightto read, know, and speeik the law.
Thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today. I would welcome any questions you might
have.
Petition for an Edicts of Government Amendment
Note that signatories to this petition have only endorsed the text that foUows emd have not reviewed nor
have they endorsed the testimony of Carl Malamud before the House Judiciary Committee. Please note
also that affihations eire hsted for identffication only and do not imply institutional endorsement.
Text of the Petition
To promote access to justice, equal protection, innovation in the legal meurketplace, and to codify long-
standing pubhc pohcy, the Copyright Act of the United States, 17 U.S.C, should be amended as foUows:
Edicts of govemment, such as judicial opinions, administrative rulings, legislative enactments, public
ordinances, and similar official legal documents are not copyrightable for reasons of public policy.
This applies to such works whether they are Federal, State, or local as well as to those of foreign
governments.
This language comes directiy from Section 206.01, Compendium of Office Practices II, U.S. Copyright
Office (1984). It reflects clear and estabhshed Supreme Court precedent on the matter in cases such as
Wheaton v. Peters, 33 U.S. (8 Pet.) 591 (1834) and Banks v. Manchester, 128 U.S. 244 (1888). The law
belongs to the people, who should befi'eeto read, know, and speedc the laws by which they choose to
govem themselves.
Signatories to the Petition
1. Jasmine C. Abdel-Khahk, Associate Professor, UMKC School of Law
2. Beth Adelman, Director of the Charles B. Sears Law library, SUNY Buffalo
3. Juhe Ahrens, Director of Copyright and Fair Use, Center for Intemet and Society, Stanford Law
School
4. John R. AUison, Spence Centennied Professor of Business and Professor of InteUectued Property,
Univ. of Texas at Austin
5. Pat Aufderheide, University Professor, American University
6. Meirgo A. Bagley, Professor of Law, University of Virginia School of Law
7. Ann Bartow, Professor of Law, Pace Law School
8. Karen S. Beck, Manager, Historical and Special Collections, Heun^eurd Law School Library
9. Yochai Benkler, Jack N. and Lilhan R. Berkman Professor for Entrepreneuried Legal Studies,
Heurvard Law School
10. Mehssa J. Bemstein, Library Director and Professor of Law, University of Utah
11. Robert C. Bierring, Jr., Walter Perry Johnson Professor of Law, UC Berkeley Law School
12. Annemarie Bridy, Associate Professor, CoUege of Law, University of Idaho
13. Wilheun J. Bmtocao, Adjunct Professor of InteUectual Property Law, University of La Veme
College of Law
14. Dan L. Burk, ChanceUor's Professor of Law, University of Cahfomia, Irvine
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15. Michael A. Carrier, Professor of Law, Rutgers Law School
16. Michael W. CarroU, Professor of Law, American University, Washington CoUege of Law
17. Brian W. Carver, Assistant Professor, University of Cedifomia, Berkeley
18. Carol Chomsky, Professor of Law and Associate Dean for Academic Affairs, University of
Minnesota Law School
19. Margaret Chon, Donald and Lynda Horowitz Professor for the Pursuit of Justice, Seattle University
School of Law
20. Ralph D. Chfford, Professor of Law, University of Massachusetts School of Law
21. Juhe E. Cohen, Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law Center
22. Kevin Emerson Collins, Professor of Law, Washington University School of Law
23. David G. Cowan, Vice President and Director of Library Services, South Texas CoUege of Law
24. Susan Crawford, Professor of Law, Cardozo Law School
25. Catherine Cmmp, Staff Attomey, ACLU
26. Richard A. Danner, Rufty Research Professor of Law and Senior Associate Dean, Duke University
School of Law
27. EsteUe Derclaye, Professor of InteUectual Property Law, University of Nottingheun
28. Pamela Edwards, Professor of Law and Director, Center for Diversity in the Legal Profession,
CUNY
29. MicheUe Vescio Evenson, Fellow, Center for Law and InteUectual Property, Thomas Jefferson
School of Law
30. Thomas G. Field, Jr., Emeritus and Visiting Professor of Law, UNH School of Law
31. John Flym, Professor Emeritus, Northeastem Univ. School of Law
32. A. Michael Froomkin, Laurie Stivers emd MitcheU Rubenstein Distinguished Professor of Law,
Univ. of Mieutti School of Law
33. Jon M. Garon, Professor of Law, Northem Kentucky University Chase CoUege of Law
34. James Gibson, Professor of Law, University of Richmond
35. Eric Goldman, Professor, Santa Clara University School of Law
36. Jerry Goldman, Research Professor of Law, UT Chicago-Kent CoUege of Law
37. EUen P. Goodman, Professor, Rutgers University School of Law
38. Jennifer Stisa Granick, Director of CivU Liberties, Stanford Center for Intemet and Society
39. James Grimmehnann, Professor of Law, New York Law School
40. David Halperin, Of Counsel, Pubhc.Resource.Org
41. WUham D. Henslee, Professor of Law, FAMU CoUege of Law
42. Laura A. Heymann, Class of 2014 Professor of Law, CoUege of WiUiam and Mary
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43. Kenneth J. Hirsh, Director of the Law Libreiry emd I.T. emd Professor of Practice, University of
Cincinnati CoUege of Law
44. Cynthia Ho, Professor of Law, Loyola University of Chicago School of Law
45. Dem Hunter, Professor of Law, New York Law School
46. Todd T. Ito, Reference Librarian and Lecturer in Law, University of Chicago Law School
47. Conrad A. Johnson, Chnical Professor of Law, Columbia University School of Law
48. Janis L. Johnston, Associate Professor of Law, University of Uhnois
49. Faye E. Jones, Director emd Professor, Legal Research Center, Florida State University
50. Dennis S. Karjala, Jack E. Brown Professor of Law, Arizona State University
51. Mehnda Kent, Manager, Research Services, Harvard Law School Libreury
52. Ian Kerr, Professor of Law, University of Ottawa
53. Minjeong Kim, Associate Professor, Colorado State University
54. Anne Khnefelter, Director of the Law Library, University of North Carolina
55. Amy Lemders, Distinguished Professor of Law, Pacffic McGeorge School of Law
56. Seurah Hooke Lee, Assistant Dean and Director, Information and Research Services, Northeastem
School of Law Library
57. Richard Leiter, Director and Professor, Schmid Law Library, University of Nebraska CoUege of
Law
58. Mark A. Lemley, Wilheim H. Neukom Professor, Stanford Law School
59. Lawrence Lessig, Roy L. Furman Professor of Law and Leadership, Harvard Law School
60. Yvette Joy Liebesman, Assistant Professor of Law, Saint Louis University
61. Joseph P. Liu, Professor of Law, Boston CoUege Law School
62. Lee Ann W. Lockridge, David Weston Robinson Professor of Law, Louisiana State University
63. J. Paul Lomio, Library Director and Lecturer in Law, Stanford Law School
64. Lydia Pallas Loren, Kay Kitagawa and Andy Johnson-Laird IP Faculty Scholar and Prof, of Law,
Lewis & Clark Law School
65. Brian J. Love, Assistant Professor, Santa Cleira University School of Law
66. Carl Medamud, President and Founder, Pubhc.Resource.Org
67. Susan Nevelow Mart, Associate Professor and Director of the Law Library, University of Colorado
at Boulder
68. John Mayer, Executive Director, Center for Computer-Assisted Legal Instmction
69. Mark P. McKeima, Professor of Law , Notre Deune Law School
70. Hiram Melendez-Juarbe, Associate Professor, University of Puerto Rico Law School
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71. Michael J. Meurer, Professor of Law, Boston Univ. School of Law
72. Courtney Minick, Attomey, Justia.com
73. Deirdre K. MuUigem, Assistant Professor, UC Berkeley School of Infoimation
74. Ira Steven Nathenson, Associate Professor of Law, St. Thomas University School of Law
75. Charles R. Nesson, Weld Professor of Law, Harvard Law School
76. Beth Noveck, Professor of Law, New York Law School
77. Tyler T. Ochoa, Professor of Law, Santa Clara University School of Law
78. Harlan Onsmd, Professor, University of Maine
79. Sean Pager, Associate Professor of Law, Michigan State University
80. MicheUe Pearse, Senior Research Librarian, Heirveurd Law School Libreiry
81. Richeurd J. Peltz-Steele, Professor of Law, University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
82. Aaron Perzanowski, Associate Professor of Law, Case Westem Reserve University School
83. Laura QuUter, Copyright Attomey and Information Pohcy Librarian, University of Massachusetts
Amherst
84. R. Anthony Reese, ChanceUor's Professor, UC Irvine School of Law
85. Blake Reid, Staff Attomey, Institute for Pubhc Representation, Georgetown Law
86. Michael Risch, Associate Professor of Law, Villanova University School of Law
87. Matthew Sag, Professor, Loyola University Chicago School of Law
88. Zahr Seud, Assistant Professor of Law, University of Washington School of Law
89. Pam Samuelson, Richard M. Sherman Distinguished Professor of Law, UC Berkeley Law School
90. Sharon K. Semdeen, Professor of Law, Hamhne University School of Law
91. Joshua D. Samoff, Professor of Law, DePaul University CoUege of Law
92. Amndhati Satkalmi, Senior Research Librarian, St. John's University School of Law
93. Roger E. Schechter, Professor of Law, George Washington University Law School
94. Jason M. Schultz, Assistant Chnical Professor of Law, UC Berkeley School of Law
95. Wendy Seltzer, FeUow, Berkman Center, Harvard University
96. Jessica Silbey, Professor of Law, Suffolk University Law School
97. Joshua M. Silverstein, Professor of Law, University of Arkansas at Littie Rock
98. David A. Simon, FeUow, Project on Law and Mind Sciences, Harvard Law School
99. Christopher Jon Sprigman, Class of 1963 Research Professor, University of Virginia School of Law
100. Tim Stanley, Attomey, Justia.Com
101. Katherine Strandburg, Professor of Law, New York University School of Law
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102. Peter Suber, Professor, Earlham CoUege
103. Barbara GeUis Traub, Head of Reference and Instmctional Services, St. John's University School
of Law
104. Samuel E. Trosow, Associate Professor, University of Westem Ontario
105. Geertrui Van Oveiwalle, Professor of Law, University of Leuven
106. Eugene Volokh, Gary T. Schwartz Professor of Law, UCLA School of Law
107. Erika V. Wayne, Deputy Director and Lecturer in Law, Stanford Law School Library
108. Beth WiUiams, Director of the Library and Information Technology Services, Louisiana State
University Law Center
109. Cicely WUson, Librarian, Justia.com
110. Jane K. Winn, Charles I. Stone Professor, University of Washington School of Law
111. Suzanne Wones, Executive Director, Harvard Law School Library
112. Richard W. Wright, Distinguished Professor of Law, UT Chicago-Kent CoUege of Law
113. Alfred C. Yen, Professor of Law, Boston CoUege Law School
114. Sue Zago, Director of Law Library, University of New Heimpshire
115. Jonathem Zittrain, Professor of Law and Vice-Dean for Library and Information Resources,
Harveurd Law School
' John Adams, Thoughts on Govemment in Revolutionary Writings, 1775-1783 (Library of America: 2011), p. 48.
2 The doctrine of ignorantia legis neminem excusat has been repeatedly affirmed. See, e.g.. United States v.
Intemational Minerals & Chem. Corp., 402 U.S. 558, 563 (1971). ("The principle that ignorance of the law is no
defense applies whether the law be a statute or a duly promulgated and published regulation.")
3 See Carl Malamud, 12 Tables of Code, January 7, 2013. https://law.resource.org/pub/12tables.htitil
* Brian Z. Tamanaha, On the Rule of Law: History, Politics, Theory (Cambridge Univiversity Press, 2004), p. 34. The
classic statement of the doctrine is A.V. Dicey, Introduction of the Law of the Constitution (1885, reprinted by
Liberty Fund: 1982).
B Robert C. Byrd, The Senate of the Roman Republic: Addresses on the History of Roman Constitutionalism (U.S.
Govemment Printing Office, 1995), pp. 33, 128, 135. Public.Resource.Org has edso made these lecture aveiilable on
YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlE1633114E0E358F
6 Thomas Henry Bingham, The Rule of Law (Penguin Press: 2011), pp. 37-38.
? Cf. Nieman v. VersusLaw, Inc., No. 12-2810 (7th Cir. Mar. 19, 2013). ("The First Amendment privileges tiie
publication of facts contained in lawfully obtained judicial records, even if reasonable people would want them
concealed.")
B Cf. Harper v. Va. State Bd.of Elections, 383 U.S. 663, 666 (1966). (A state violatestiieEqual Protection Clause
"whenever it makes the affluence of the voter or payment of any fee an electoral standard"); See also Magna Carta
cl. 29 (1297). ("We will sell to no man, we will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right.")
9 Wheaton v. Peters, 33 U.S. (8 Pet.) 591 (1834). https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/US/33/33.US.
591.html
10 Craig Joyce, Reporters of Decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States, University of Houston Law Center No.
2005-A-l 1. http://papers.ssm.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=800884
" Wheaton V. Peters, op. cit.
'2 Banks v. Manchester, 128 U.S. 244 9 S.Ct. 36 32 L.Ed. 425 (1888) quoting Nash v. Lathrop, 142 Mass. 29, 35, 6 N. E.
Rep. 559 (1886). https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/US/128/128.US.244.html
13 Veeck v. Soutiiem Building Code Congress Intemational, Inc., 293 F.3d 791 (Sth Cir. 2002). https://
law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F3/293/293.F3d.791.99-40632.htinl
'* See Cory Doctorow, City of Chicago and Public-Spirited Hackers Unveil the Chicago City Code, Boing Boing,
November 17, 2013, http://boingboing.net/2013/ll/17/city-of-chicago-and-public-spi.htmlSee a7so Tom Lee, 7?ie
D.C. Code is Open —Come Hack on It!, Sunlight Foundation, April 4, 2013, http://sunlightfoimdation.com/blog/
2013/04/04/the-dc-code-is-open-come-hack-on-it/
's The official web site is maintained for the City of Chicago by American Legal Publishing, http://
www.amlegal.com/library/il/chicago.shtml Cf Chicago Decoded, http://chicagocode.org/
'B The District of Columbia contracts with LexisNexis for its codification services, who provide a primitive web site.
http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/dccode/ Cf. DCcode. http://dccode.org/
'? Letter from Carl Malamud, Public.Resource.Org, to Hon. Scott Bedke, Idaho State Legislature, May 30, 2013.
https://law.resource.org/piib/us/code/id/id.gov.20130530.pdf
'3 Intemet Archive, Official State Codes Collection, https://archive.org/details/govlaw
'9 Letter from Bradlee R. Frazer on behalf of the Idaho State Legislature to Carl Malamud, Public.Resource.Org, July
12, 2013. https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/id/id.gov.20130712.pdf
20/bid.
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^' Public.Resource.Org paid $913.31 on April 9, 2013 for the Official Idaho Code, https://law.resource.org/ifcs/
lexis.com.20130409.pdf
22 LexisNexis, Idaho Code. ("Smart Idaho practitioners tum to LexisNexis' Idaho Code as the only official source in
Idaho for primary law.") http://www.lexisnexis.com/store/catalog/booktemplate/productdetcdl.jsp?prodId=6981
23 Letter from Carl Malamud, Public.Resource.Org, to Hon. Ben Ysura, Secretary of State of Idaho, July 15, 2013.
https://Iaw.resource.org/pub/us/code/id/id.gov.20130715.pdf
2* U.S. Const. Amend. XI. (The 11th Amendment establishes sovereign immunity and prohibits "any suit in law or
equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or
Subjects of any Foreign State.")
2s Letter from Hon. Josh McKoon, Georgia State Senate, to Carl Malamud, Public.Resoiurce.Org, July 25, 2013.
https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/ga/ga.gov.20130725.pdf
26 Letter from Carl Malamud, Public.Resource.Org, to Hon. Josh McKoon, Georgia State Senate, July 30, 2013.
https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/ga/ga.gov.20130730.pdf
2?lietter from Hon. Josh McKoon, Georgia State Senate, to Carl Malamud, Public.Resource.Org, August 15, 2013.
https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/ga/ga.gov.20130815.pdf
2BI,etter from Larry A. Schemmel, Special Assistant Attomey General of Mississippi, to Carl Malamud,
Public.Resource.Org, October 7, 2013. https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/ms/ms.gov.20131007.pdf
29 While a few states eissert copyright over state statutes, at least 25 states attempt to assert some kind of copyright
control over legal materials such as state regulations or court opinions. See Tina S. Ching and Emily Feltren, Update
on the National Inventory of Leged Materials, American Association of Law Libraries, Febmary 1, 2012. http://
blog.law.comeU.eduyvoxpop/2012/02/01/protecting-access-one-entry-at-a-time-an-update-on-the-nationed-
inventory-of-legal-materials/
30 State of Virginia, Legislative Information System, Code of Virginia, http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?
000+cod+TOC C/Virginia Decoded, http://vacode.org/
31 Waldo Jaquith, The State Decoded: Legal codes, for humans, http://www.statedecoded.com/
32 Knight Foundation, The State Decoded, 2011 Knight News Challenge. (Amount: $165,000) http://
www.knightfoundation.org/grants/20110158/
33 U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, Investigation Report: Refinery Explosion and Fire, Report No.
2005-04-I-TX, March, 2007. http://www.csb.gOv/assets/l/19/CSBFinalReportBP.pdf
3* National Transportation Safety Board, Pacific Cas and Electric Company Natural Gas Transmission Pipeline Rupture
andFire, NTSB/PAR-11/01, PB2011-916501. http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2011/PAR1101.pdf
35 Jxiifikar Aii Manik and Jim Yardley, Bangladesh Finds Gross Negligence in Factory Fire, New York Times, December
17, 2012. http://nytimes.coin/2012/12/18/world/asia/bangladesh-factory-fire-caused-by-gross-negligence.html
36 Julfikar Aii Manik and Jim Yardley, Building Collapse in Bangladesh Leaves Scores Dead, New York Times, April 24,
2013. http://nytimes.com/2013/04/25/world/cisia/bangladesh-building-collapse.html
3? Pub. L. No. 104-113, March 7, 1996. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PIiAW-104pubI113/pdf/
PLAW-104publll3.pdf
38 Office of Management and Budget, Federal Participation in the Development and Use of Voluntary Consensus
Standards and in Conformity Assessment Activities, Circuleur No. A-119 Revised, Febmary 10, 1998, http://
www.whitehouse.gov/omb/circulars_al 19
39 Public.Resource.Org, Public Safety Codes Incorporated by Law, Last updated July 31, 2012. https://
law.resource.org/pub/us/code/safety.html
40 Veeck v. Soutiiern Building Code Congress hitemational, Inc., 293 F. 3d 791 (5tii Cir. 2002), yi 36.
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*' Quoting HoweU v. Miller, 91 F. 129, 137 (6tii Cir. 1898).
*2 Veeck at ^ 35.
*3 Titie 24, Califomia Code of Regulations, https://law.resource.org/pub/us/code/bsc.ca.gov/
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51 Incorporation by Reference is govemed by 1 CFR 51 and 5 U.S.C. § 552(a).
52 See, e.g., E-Govemment Act of 2002, 44 U.S.C. § 101 ("To promote use of the Intemet and other information
technologies to provide increased opportunities for citizen participation in Government.") and President Obama's
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58 29 CFR 1910 ef. seq.
59 49 CFR 172 et. seq.
60 49 CFR 571 et. seq.
6'46 CFR 111 ef. seq.
62 10 CFR 430 et. seq.
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?3NFPA, Coalition for Fire-Safe Cigarettes, http://www.firesafecigarettes.org/
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^ ANSI, ANSI Launches Online Portal for Standards Incorporated by Reference, October 28, 2013. http://
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jurisdiction in state courts and were to invoke the minimum penalty, we face potential damages of $17,010,000 for
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Zittrain, Professor of Law and Vice-Dean for Library and Information Resources, Harvard Law School. The petition
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August 4, 1822.
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR TESTING AND
MATERIALS D/B/A ASTM INTERNATIONAL;
NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION, INC.;
AND AMERICAN SOCIETY OF HEATING,
REFRIGERATING, AND AIR-CONDITIONING
ENGINEERS, INC.
Plaintiffs,/
Counter-Defendants, Case No.:
vs 1:13-CV-01215-EGS
PUBLIC.RESOURCE.ORG, INC.
Defendant/
Counter-Plaintiff
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4 A I t h i n k so. 1:27:49PM
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7 MR. BRIDGES: I f you want. 1:29:02PM
8 MR. FEE: Why d o n ' t we do t h a t . 1:29:04PM
9 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We're g o i n g o f f t h e 1:29:05PM
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