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  • FARAH GOHARI et al vs MCDONALD?S CORPORATION et al Class Actions document preview
  • FARAH GOHARI et al vs MCDONALD?S CORPORATION et al Class Actions document preview
  • FARAH GOHARI et al vs MCDONALD?S CORPORATION et al Class Actions document preview
  • FARAH GOHARI et al vs MCDONALD?S CORPORATION et al Class Actions document preview
  • FARAH GOHARI et al vs MCDONALD?S CORPORATION et al Class Actions document preview
  • FARAH GOHARI et al vs MCDONALD?S CORPORATION et al Class Actions document preview
  • FARAH GOHARI et al vs MCDONALD?S CORPORATION et al Class Actions document preview
  • FARAH GOHARI et al vs MCDONALD?S CORPORATION et al Class Actions document preview
						
                                

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Hearing Date: No hearing scheduled Location: <> J udge: Calendar, 9 FILED 10/21/2022 5:34 PM IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS IRIS Y. MARTINEZ CIRCUIT CLERK COUNTY DEPARTMENT, CHANCERY DIVISION COOK COUNTY, IL 2016CH08261 FARAH GOHARI as the Named Calendar, 9 Class Representative Plaintiff, and all 20001472 others similarly situated, Plaintiff, Case No. 2016 CH 08261 Vv. Hon. Cecilia A. Horan McDONALD’S CORPORATION, LOTT #1, INC., McDonald’s franchise at O’Hare Airport, Terminal 1, Concourse C, and LOTT #1, INC., McDonald’s franchise at O’Hare Airport, Terminal 1, Concourse B, Defendants. EXHIBIT B TO DEFENDANT McDONALD’S CORPORATION’S MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF ITS MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT EXHIBIT B IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS COUNTY DEPARTMENT - CHANCERY DIVISION FARAH GOHARI, as the Named Class Representative Plaintiff, and All Others Similarly Situated, Plaintiff, vs. No. 2016 CH 08261 q MCDONALD'S CORPORATION, LOTT #1, INC., McDonald's Franchise at O'Hare Airport, Terminal 1, Concourse C, and LOTT #1, INC., McDonald's Franchise at O'Hare Airport, Terminal 1, Concourse B, Defendants. Record of proceedings had e the hearing of the above-entitled cause, before the Honorable ANNA M, LOFTUS, one of the Judges of said Court, on January 7 , 2020, 4 1 2410, ard J Daley Center, Chicago, Illinois, commencing at 10:50 a.m. ABSOLUTE REPORTERS (312) 444-9882 www.absolutereporters.net Purchased from re:SearchIL Cc 660 Page 2 Page 4 APPEARANCES THE CLERK: 10:30 matters. KRISLOV & ASSOCIATES, LTD. 16 CH 8261, Gohari vs. McDonald's. 20 North Wacker Drive, Suite 1300 THE COURT: Allright. Thank you, Chicago, Illinois 60606 everyone, You may be seated. (312) 606-0500 BY: MR. CLINTONA. KRISLOV Thank you very much for your clint@krisiovlaw.com patience. I know we're starting a little bit late. MR. KENNETH T. GOLDSTEIN If the attorneys want to approach. ken@kri vlaw.com MR. KRISLOV: Good morning, Your Honor, for the plaintiff, Clint Krislov, with me, Ken Goldstein, on behalfof FREEBORN & PETERS, LLP 10 the plaintiff, Farah Gohari, who is here at the 10 311 Sot th Wacker Drive, ite 3000 Chicago, Hlinois 60606 table. (312) 360-6000 THE COURT: Good morning. BY: MR. DAVID J. DOYLE 13 MR. DOYLE: Good morning, Your Honor, a ddoyie@ eeborn.com 4 b for defendant McDonald's Corporation; David Doyle on behalf of McDonald's Corporation. u 15 MS. BURTNETT: Jessica Burtnett on behalf TRAUB LIEBERMAN STRAUS & SHREWSBERRY, LLP, 16 of the co-defendant. a 303 West Madison Street, Suite 1200 a Chicago, Illinois 60606 THE COURT: Okay. All right. We are ae (312) 332-3900 here today for an evidentiary hearing, as I've BY. MS_JESSICAK. BURTNETT a9 jburtnett@tlsslaw com previously stated when I ruled on the motion for le for defendant Lott #1, Inc. 20 summary judgment denying the motion for summary 2 20 judgment, because there is a question of fact as to 22 what Ms. Gohari's knowledge was at the time of her 23 purchasing experience. 23 24 24 We had met last week, and you all Page 3 Page 5 INDEX identified some exhibits you are going to be using — Page MR. DOYLE: Correct. THE WITNESS: THE COURT: -- and then also that Ms. Gohari was going to be a witness. 5 FARAH GOHARI Do you have those exhibits? MR. DOYLE: I do. Here's a binder for Direct Examination by Mr. Doyle 29 Your Honor. Cross-Examination by Mr. Krislov 105 ‘THE COURT: Did plaintiffs get a copy of Redirect Examination by Mr. Doyle 113 it? 10 Recross-Examination by Mr. Krislov 119 10 MR. DOYLE: Yesterday we messengered it un to plaintiff's counsel at their request, and I have 12 EXHIBITS RECEIVED IN EVIDENCE 12 another binder -- it's the same binder -- for the 13 13 witness that I'll leave here. 14 Gohari Exhibit No. 1 THE COURT: Allright. Has there been 15 Gohari Exhibit No. 2 15 any discussion of any stipulations as to what Gohari Exhibit No. 3 16 evidence will be admitted into evidence? 7 Gohari Exhibit No. 4 Vy MR. DOYL! There have not, Your Honor. 18 The first three pictures -- the first three exhibits 19 1g and I only intend to use the first four exhibits 7 20 in the binder during my examination, to be honest a1 with Your Honor. I have attached her complaint and 22 22 her affidavits just so they're there for ease of 23 23 reference, but I intend to only use the first four 24 24 exhibits. 2 (Pages 2 to 5) ABSOLUTE REPORTERS (312) 444-9882 www.absolutereporters.net Purchased from re:SearchIL Cc 661 Page 6 Page 8 Those exhibits are photographs of MR. KRISLOV: as he characterized it the restaurant that Ms. Gohari took, her receipt, as. That apparently i and those were attached to the complaint. THE COURT: It's a complaint that was THE COURT: Okay. made -- well, Counsel has put forth an affidavit MR. DOYLE: And then the fourth document that it was something that McDonald's has received. is the e-mail that I believe is, in her words, a I could go to the affidavit and use the exact word, complaint that she made the day of her purchase. but it was something that was received by McDonald's I don't anticipate any objections as in its system. And there is a "Comments" section to any of these documents. And if you want to which I think your client acknowledged in her 19 entertain that discussion now, I'm happy to do it, io affidavit was drafted by her. a but I had assumed that all of those would be ul MR. KRISLOV: Yeah, I don't think that we 12 admissible. dispute that the contents of the -- that the THE COURT: We can probably do it at the 13 contents of the substance of the complaint in there La time if you want to admit -- ifthere's an 4 that she did -- that I think she filled that in. 1s objection, you can raise it at that time. I don't as THE COURT: So are you going to have an 16 want to do it now, I don't think, because it depends 16 objection to the foundation of this document? v on what's discussed during the evidentiary hearing. Tt sounds like you're admitting to 18 MR. DOYLE: And, Your Honor, just for the 18 the authenticity or agreeing to the authenticity. 9 arification on Exhibit 4, Your Honor will recall 19 It is what it purports to be. 20 -- we don't have a custodian here or a witness who 20 But as to the foundation, Counsel can lay the foundation for it at this hearing, But had mentioned the affidavit of Kathy Anderson that 22 Your Honor will recall that in connection with our 22 was previously submitted in support of their motion 23 summary judgment filing, we submitted a declaration 23 for summary judgment which lays the foundation for 24 from an employee at McDonald's who spoke to what 24 the complaint, not the court complaint but the Page 7? Page 99 that document is, so I had anticipated that that complaint to McDonald's, but he does not have her would be sufficient foundation for us to use it here here today. today. ‘And so my question is, is that If Your Honor needs something more, are you going to object to the admission of Gohari then we can supplement the record after the hearing, Exhibit 4 on that basis; meaning, there would have but it was my expectation that this was really not a 6 to cither be some subsequent testimony or some other controversial document and that the witness will be process we'd have to go about after the testimony we able to explain whether these were her words or not hear today? 9 her words. MR. KRISLOV: Your Honor, you were the 10 THE COURT: Do you want to talk on that 20 one who directed that her testimony come in. If now just to -- al they want -- they didn't ask us to agree to anything 12 MR. KRISLOV: Sure. We object. It's not 12 about this, and we don't. 13 an e-mail. What it is is apparently McDonald's 13 But, you know, I think if he asks a4 records of what -- when you go to their website to 14 her, were these the words that -- the things that 15 file a complaint, you have to fill in some things. she typed in in her complaint, I think she will 16 And I think as to the substance of 16 probably acknowledge the substance of that so that S) it, well, you know, they don't contact us or ask us, while we don't -- while we do this procedure under a and we -- as you know, we object to this whole 18 protest, you know, I'm sure, I believe, that she 19 procedure of doing it this way. We'll proceed -- 19 will probably acknowledge that that's what she typed 20 THE COURT: Let me ask you two questions. 20 off of her phone to McDonald's while she was still 21 You object to this document. I 21 at O'Hare before she left, and we think that that 22 didn't understand what you said 22 should qualify. MR. KRISLOV: It is not an e-mail -~ 23 To the extent that a payment under 24 THE COURT: Understood. 24 protest was -- would be required in some way, that's - iS) (Pages 6 to 9) ABSOLUTE REPORTERS (312) 444-9882 www.absolutereporters.net Purchased from re:SearchIL C 662 Page 10 Page 12 as close to -- that's the only way that she had to So if that, in fact -- so that lodge a protest. question of fact, if that's resolved, if it's THE COURT: And I think you mentioned the resolved in your favor, then we continue. If it's last time we were together that you object to the resolved in defendants' favor, then the case is process or the procedure. over. If you wanted to make that more So the concern here is that if we explicit right now, what your specific objection is. have an issue that we know can tell us one way or MR. KRISLOV: The objection is that their another whether the case survives, we should address motion for summary judgment is their fourth attempt that now as opposed to going through the whole 10 to attack her complaint, which has been upheld at process in three years from now, and then I have a least three times, and she should be allowed to 11 that question of fact come to a head at an 12 proceed; that allowing them this fourth whack at 12 evidentiary hearing, and I decide the same way I 43 her, if you will, is fundamentally unfair, Once you 13 would three years before. a4 deny summary judgment, the case proceeds as a 14 So if] find in plaintiff's favor, as disputed fact. 15 we'll continue, and we'll address all of the other 16 T understand Your Honor's thoughts factors. But again, if you don't meet this one in doing this, And while we disagree with it, we factor of the Consumer Fraud Act, then the case is 18 are certainly cooperating out of respect for the a8 over, and so that's why -- I'm trying to be Court, but this is not typically the way these cases 1s efficient, and that's why I determined that this i20 20 proceed; that once the complaint has been upheld, it process was the most appropriate way. 2 is time to proceed. 21 MR. KRISLOV: With all due respect, this 22 We have asked for discovery from 22 is the fourth -- 23 McDonald's. They refuse it. We've asked for class 23 THE COURT: I understand. 24 certification. It's been held in abeyance pending 24 MR. KRISLOV: This is the fourth attempt Page 11 Page 8) all of this. To give them repeated attempts to to end this case, and we have asked -- if this is attack her complaint with things, most recently, going to be done on an issue of fact as to her this complaint piece, the -- they call it - what we knowledge, the counter people at McDonald's are refer -- he's referred to as the e-mail. This was certainly relevant because she will testify as to in their possession the whole time from before our what they told her. And our understanding of what complaint was even filed. In fact, as McDonald's they knew at the time and what they told people at knew about this wrongdoing, this overcharging for at that time is relevant. It is a factual dispute as least two months that we know of, they repeatedly to what you tell people and to what they understand. attack the complaint. If you do this on this one-way 10 It is time to proceed, The reason 10 basis, this is -- with all due respect, this is uu this case is now more than three years old is that tM) quite unfair. 12 McDonald's has been given repeated opportunities to 12 THE COURT: Did you have anything you 13 attack the complaint again and again with things 3 wanted to say before I address Counsel? 4 that were in its possession from the beginning. And 14 MR. DOYLE: Only, Your Honor, that I 1s while -- think the reason why we're here three years after THE COURT: Well, they're allowed to file 16 the fact is not because of motion practice that took 7 motions to dismiss, a motion for summary judgment, ar a long time. I think it's because of a distinct 18 so I don't think that they've been given repeated ae lack of clarity in the record. This hearing is 19 attacks is the way I would phrase it. designed by Your Honor to get at that issue and to 20 Just to bring it back to where we 20 resolve that lack of clarity. are today, the question of fact which caused me to 21 And we're finally going to hear Ms. 22 deny the summary judgment was your client's 22 Gohari's story. She will have her day in court. 23 knowledge at the time of her purchasing experience, 23 And if her story is such that it cannot sustain a 24 which would go to whether she was deceived. 24 cause of action under the Tlinois Consumer Fraud 4 (Pages 10 to 13) ABSOLUTE REPORTERS (312) 444-9882 www.absolutereporters.net Purchased from re:SearchIL C 663 Page 14 Page 6 Act, even if we accept everything that she says as proximate cause; and, therefore, summary judgment true, then Your Honor is exactly right. We'd be should be granted in favor of the defendants. sparing the litigants and the Court years of So, Your Honor, I don't necessarily litigation potentially on a matter for which there's plan on getting out every statement and going a kill shot. through both affidavits and going through the There's a lack of evidence on a key complaint and making sure that everything coalesces. lement of the cause of action, so I think what We have the witness here. We can hear her honest we're doing here is the right thing, and we're ready testimony about what occurred that morning right 9 to proceed. from her mouth and then, based on that, decide 10 THE COURT: One question I had for you 10 whether they can proceed with a cause of action a before I turn it back to Counsel is -- as [ set 12 under the Illinois Consumer Fraud Act. 2 forth in my ruling on summary judgment, a question 12 So I don't know, Your Honor, to be ag of fact arose out of statements by Ms. Gohari 13 honest with you, whether or not a credibility as herself, One was this complaint made to McDonald's, 4 determination of any kind on Your Honor's part will 45 and then that's compared with the complaint -- the actually be necessary because I have a suspicion and 16 court complaint as well as the affidavit, which seem 16 a sense that based on her testimony and accepting to conflict. v7 that testimony as true, Your Honor will conclude 18 During this evidentiary hearing, I'm that there's a failure to create a triable issue of 19 going to hear from Ms. Gohari. Certainly with 19 fact on their Iinois Consumer Fraud Act claim. 20 respect to that conflict, which is a conflict 20 MS. BURTNETT: If I may dovetail onto 21 between what she said on various occasions, it 21 that, Your Honor, this will be no different than you 22 requires that I asse: her credibility. 22a reading a deposition transcript. You don't need to 23 MR. DOYL + Well, if f may, Judge, I'm 23i make a judge of credibility when you're reading a 24 not sure that that's true, to be honest with you, 24 deposition transcript. It would be the same, Page 15 Page 17 because I think -- what I would like to do is walk determining: Is there a material issue of fact? her through her story: What did she purchase? What So if there are slight was she told? What did she know? I don't plan to inconsistencies, are those inconsistencies material go into her affidavit or the allegations in her to your decision, so this just happens to be done in complaint. front of Your Honor. And, yes, you might find that what THE COURT: Well, it is an evidentiary she says today is not entirely consistent with hearing because I am wanting to hear -- there have what's in her complaint. But I think what you'll been two either slight or maybe more inconsistent -- find is that it probably will be, but it will just more than slight inconsistent statements by one 10 be more fleshed out. 10 person. She comes up and testifies consistent with ul So we're going to hear today her 1 one. 12 full story. If Your Honor believes that her story 12 You're saying then that's the one is contradicts other writings that have been submitted 13 that I go with? and wants to follow up and try to get clarity on 14 You're not going to cross-examine those issues, I think that might be appropriate, but 15 her on the other statements she's made? Because | 16 I -- the way I envision this happening is that I 16 think that then raises a credibility issue. VW will simply question her about what happened that uv And that's why we're having her come 18 morning when she went to a restaurant at O'Hare. 18 to testify today, in part so that I can assess her 1g Bs19 And I believe, Your Honor, that credibility and, my understanding is, because there 20 based on what she says and regardless of what she 20 was a conflict in what she said on various says, based on what I believe to be the truth and 21 occasions. 22 what I believe she's going to testify and what I've 22 MR. DOYLE: | agree with that, Your 23 seen in the documents, plaintiffs are going to fall 23 Honor. 24 short of creating a triable issue of fact on 24 Let me make a proposal. Let's put 2 (Pages 14 to 17 )} ABSOLUTE REPORTERS (312) 444-9882 www.absolutereporters.net Purchased from re:SearchIL Cc 664 Page 18 Page 20 Ms. Gohari on the witness stand and see what she has client's knowledge was at the time. to say. My guess is that her testimony -- my guess But to the extent that I'm asked to is that she tried to make a good-faith attempt in make a credibility determination at this point, her complaint and in her affidavits to explain what there may be some benefit to having either witnesses happened. I don't think it was that clear. to detract from her credibility or witnesses to We have her here today, and she can bolster her credibility. clarify it. And if-- and it may be based on what So we won't make that decision now. she testifies that you and everybody here in this I think we'll go through the hearing, and then we'll room says, "Oh, okay. That makes sense. I get it have a -- and then Ms. Gohari doesn't have to be 10 now. This is what she did." here for this, and other people can go, and we can. That's the story that they would un have that discussion of what will happen next. But 12 tell at trial, okay? I'm accepting that, as Counsel 12 I wanted to raise that at the outset just so you 3 says, as though this is a deposition. I'm accepting 13 have that as a frame of mind. aa this testimony. 4 If you had anything else you wanted 15 THE COURT; But it's not a deposition. 1s to say about that before we begin, I'd welcome it. ‘This is an evidentiary hearing. 16 MR. KRISLOV: I mean, as we've said in MS. BURTNETT: Well, Your Honor, [ mean -~ the past, McDonald's personnel at the counter 18 THE COURT: Isn't there a distinction? 18 certainly are relevant in weighing her credibility, 19 MS. BURTNETT: There is a distinction. 1g if that's what this is about, which we get two 20 But, quite honestly, it's slight. It would be the 20 different answers from my colleagues across the a same as if we were to take her deposition today in a aisle. 2a different location, attach a deposition transcript 22 I think while we object to doing it 2a and allow you to reconsider the motion for summary 23 in this fashion, I think you'll find Ms, Gohari, who 24 judgment. We're providing you with additional 24 has flown in from Wichita, Kansas, just for this Page 19 Page 21 evidence on that issue here. purpose -- you know, this is -- it's a great And as Counsel expressed, I believe commitment for her to actually -- I mean, she's that any inconsistencies or lack of clarity ~ doing what a plaintiff does in a class case, and she 4 because I don't believe that any of the actual has, and she's prepared to testify. And while, you inconsistencies in the complaint, the affidavit and know, I've indicated that we object to this, we're 6 her e-mail complaint are material to this, And so going ahead with it. Your Honor will be able to listen -- just this is We do think that to the extent they cutting to the chase. Instead of having to wait to want to attack her credibility, doing this as a get a transcript and read it and go through 9 trial now is -- you know, it's not the way this 10 additional briefing, you are hearing her testimony 10 should be done, but why don't we proceed ahead and now. a sce where we get to 12 THE COURT The reason why I'm raising a2 THE COURT: Okay. this before I turn it over to you all is, as I was 13 MS. BURTNETT: Your Honor -- 14 preparing for this, a concern arose. And I don't 4 THE COURT: Does your client have a as specifically recall if this was requested by the flight home tonight, today, or do you have a -- 16 plaintiffs. 1 know you've requested the appearance MR. KRISLOV: Yes. She's going home this # or the ability to question McDonald's counter afternoon, 18 workers. 18 THE COURT: What's the flight time? 19 MR. KRISLOV: Yes. 19 MR. GOLDSTEIN: No. She's planning to 20 THE COURT: And I think you had maybe 20 leave Chicago with her son to Ann Arbor where he au mentioned having witnesses who had had similar 21 lives. 22 experiences as Ms. Gohari. And I rejected your 22 THE COURT: Okay. But given the weather, 23 request to bring in people who had similar 23 T'm cognizant of the time. 24 experiences because, again, this is what your 24 So did you have something else you 6 (Pages 18 to 21) ABSOLUTE REPORTERS (312) 444-9882 www.absolutereporters.net Purchased from re:SearchIL Cc 665 Page 22 Page 24 wanted to -- THE COURT: It may be at issue if it goes MS. BURTNETT: 1} just had one, smal to her credibii thing, Your Honor. Ifthey say, "Well, this is what I With respect to the presence of the said," and she says, "Well, no, this is what counter individuals, as Your Honor had previously occurred," that's one thing. So that might detract stated, that goes to the -- potentially to the from her credibility. intent to deceive, not whether there is actual If the counter people even recall deception. And here, the issue before Your Honor is this and say the same thing as she does, that would whether there was actual deception. And the only then bolster her credibility. 10 individual that is able to provide testimony on that 10 MR. KRISLOV: Right. proximate cause issue is Ms. Gohari, so those un THE COURT: It's not what their intent 12 individuals’ testimony is not needed for you to 12 ‘was or -- decide this issue. MR. KRISLOV: I'm not looking for their 14 THE COURT: And I agree with you on that, 4 intent. But as to her credibility, if the 15 THE COURT: Right. 16 counter people said the same thing as what Ms. 16 MR. KRISLOV: I don't believe that the Gohari says, that would bolster her credibility. v counter people are the people who intended this 18 So it's not what their intent was. 1e wrongdoing. McDonald's knew that the signage was It's what their memory of what o curred -- whether 19 wrong. And what they were telling people is 20 that's consistent with Ms. Gohari. 20 relevant to determine what was in consumers’ minds, bal ai MS. BURTNETT: Well -- to wit, what was in Ms. Gohari's mind when she 22 THE COURT: And that's why I -- and 22 raised the issue. 23 think the only thing that had been raised to me 23 So I think relevance is clear on 24 before was with respect to the intent to deceive, 24 that, that we should be able to get the counter Page 23 Page 25 and that's why I rejected that. But then on my own people. And my guess is that they'll remember for thinking about this, while it wasn't raised by the two months that their signage was wrong and that parties to my recollection, I thought that maybe I they were having to explain it on a rare occasion or should rai: it even though it hadn't been raised by maybe just with Ms. Gohari and -- the parti just to make sure that this is done ina THE COURT: But whether they remember proper fashion. this specific transaction with Ms. Gohari is going MS. BURTNETT: Well -- and for purposes to be what would be relevant. of summary judgment, for your decision, we are going MR. KRISLOV: If they told the same thing 9 to view the facts most favorable to the plaintiff. to -- 56 So if there is a discrepancy, you're HE COURT: It's not what they generally going to view those facts most favorable to the tell people. It's what -- if it's up to her plaintiff, which would be her own testimony 12 credibility, it would be the transaction with her. regardless. 13 MR. KRISLOY: | fundamentally disagree MR. KRISLOV: To be sure, the counter a4 with you, Your Honor, but why don't we proceed. personnel that we wanted were for what was told to 4s THE COURT: I mean, they could just say, 16 people at the time, and that would -- that is "This is how we typically handle this." uv certainly relevant because what was told to Ms. 17 MR. KRISLOV: No. "This is how we handle aw Gohari and what was told to other people at the time 18 that. This is what" sia) would go to what would be in consumers! minds as 19 THE COURT: Right. Right. 20 they make their purchases. 20 MR. KRISLOV: "When people say, ‘Oh, the a THE COURT: But that's not the issue a1 price is different,' here's what we were told to 22 here. As I said previously, what they told to 22 tell people." 23 others certainly would not be at issue. 23 THE COURT: Well, right, but the issue is 24 MR. KRISLOV: What they told her is. 24 -- what Ms. Gohari did in response to that 7 (Pages 22 to 25) ABSOLUTE REPORTERS (312) 444-9882 www.absolutereporters.net Purchased from re:SearchIL C 666 Page 26 Page 28 information is what the issue is here. Okay. All right. So I think we MR. KRISLOV: What the information talked about last time that you were the movant, so provided to her was is relevant. if you would like to call your first witness. So why don't we proceed so that she MR. DOYLE: I welcome the opportunity to can get on a plane, I think. call Farah Gohari to the witness stand, Your Honor. THE COURT: And I think I do need to THE COURT: And, ma'am, if you'd just clarifi - I went back to confirm -- that I did deny stop here on your way just to get sworn in by my the motion for summary judgment because of this fact clerk, please. question, so the evidentiary hearing is not in (Witness sworn.) 10 furtherance of the motion for summary judgment. 10 THE COURT: Okay. And then walk right 1a MR. DOYLE: We had set forth certain aL around here. And there's some steps over here, so 12 facts in our summary judgment motion that we thought 12 be careful on your way up and just have a seat here. 13 were undisputed and meant that no trial needed to be 13 And I believe Counsel is going to had. refer to that book over there for you to look at 1s THE COURT: Right. 15 from time to time. 16 MR. DOYLE: I think Your Honor looked at 16 Just make sure to keep your voice up the e-mail and looked at the record and wasn't so that everybody can hear. And answer questions 18 entirely convinced that our version of the facts was 18 with words, not with a shake of the head, because 19 true because things were too muddled, and that's why 1g the court reporter can't take that down. And we'll 20 I think Your Honor had this hearing. I think this 20 remind you gently if you do because we all do it. an hearing will help us get to the bottom of that Okay.