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NEW YORK CITY
DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AND WORKER PROTECTION
DWCP RULES HEARING
MINIMUM PAY RATE FOR FOOD DELIVERY SERVICE WORKERS
VIRTUAL HEARING
April 7, 2023
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INDEX
Charlie Driver Hearing Officer 5
Jumaane Williams Public Advocate City of NY 9
Brad Lander Comptroller 13
Shahama Hanif Council Member, Immigration 16
Greg Clark Council Member 18
Osward Feliz Council Member 22
Catalina Cruz Assembly Member 24
Zohran Mandani Assembly Member 28
Gale Brewer Council Member 30
Lacey Tauber Rep. Brooklyn Borough President 31
Gale Brewer Council Member 33
Manny Ramirez Delivery Worker 34
Anthony Capote Senior Policy Analyst 37
Josh Gold Uber 40
Ernesta Galvez Delivery Worker 43
Maria Figueroa Dean Empire State University 45
Andrew Wolf Labor Sociologist 47
Sasha Owen Government Affairs DoorDash 50
William Medina Delivery Worker 54
Antonio Templos Delivery Worker 56
Grajales Delivery Worker 57
Pazaran Delivery Worker 59
Adolfo Martinez Delivery Worker 60
Joshua Wood Delivery Worker 61
Antonio Solis Delivery Worker 65
Gustavo Ajche Delivery Worker 66
Alicia Waltham Workers Justice Project 68
Sekou Siby Restaurant Opportunities Centers 70
Charito Reyes Delivery Worker 73
Nevarez Delivery Worker 75
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Chavez Delivery Worker 77
Solano Delivery Worker 79
Edvin Cal Delivery Worker 82
Solo Delivery Worker 85
Michael Beltzer Community Organizer 87
Di Zhan Justice for App Workers 89
Giovanni Sinclair Delivery Worker 91
Luis Alarcon Delivery Worker 93
Jorge Delivery Worker 95
Dionne Sutherland Delivery Worker 98
Juan Solano Delivery Worker 100
Bimal Justice for App Workers 102
Unknown Male Speaker 104
Sandra Delivery Worker 107
Rodolfo Ministro Delivery Worker 108
Nadia Molina National Day Laborer Org Network 112
Joshe Ordonez Delivery Worker 114
Rodrigo Delivery Worker 117
Angel Delivery Worker 119
Edilberto Delivery Worker 122
Felipe Chivalan Delivery Worker 124
Salvador Delivery Worker 125
Carlos Velasquez Delivery Worker 128
David Jimenez Delivery Worker 130
Evan Vasquez Delivery Worker 131
Luis Mas Delivery Worker 133
Francisco Ramirez Delivery Worker 134
Nancy Delivery Worker 136
Parmenides Delivery Worker 137
Ismael Leo Delivery Worker 141
Jessica Shi Delivery Worker 143
Mario Delivery Worker 144
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Deanna Santana National Day Laborer Org Network 146
Eric McClure StreetsPAC 148
Kaka Delivery Worker 150
Giovanni Chen Delivery Worker 151
Lucas Delivery Worker 152
Carlos Delivery Worker 153
Gabino Chen Delivery Worker 156
Daniel Delivery Worker 157
Patricia Medina Worker Institute 159
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1 MR. CHARLIE DRIVER: Okay. Folks, we are
2 going to get started here. Again, if you haven't, let
3 me know that you want to testify, please use the raise
4 hand function and I'll add you to the list. You know,
5 I'll put your hand down once I have you on the list.
6 It may, you know, take a little while for me to put
7 your hand down, but I am aware, you know, of what --
8 that you're indicating your desire to testify. Once
9 again, si desea ofrecer su testimonio y todavÃa no
10 está registrado con nosotros, utilice la función de
11 levantar la mano en equipos o envÃe un mensaje en el
12 chat. Thank you.
13 So, good morning, all. My name is Charlie
14 Driver. I've been designated as a hearing officer for
15 the public hearing of the Department of Consumer and
16 Worker Protection on the method for determining
17 minimum payments made to a food delivery worker by a
18 third-party food delivery service or third-party
19 courier service. This hearing is being held by
20 teleconference call. It is now 11:08 on Friday, April
21 7, 2023, and I am hereby convening this public hearing
22 on this proposed rule.
23 The proposed rule was published in the City
24 Record on March 7, 2023. The published notice and
25 rules are available online on the New York City Rules
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1 website and the Department's website. The Department
2 is proposing these rules pursuant to the authority
3 vested in the, in the Commissioner of the Department
4 of Consumer and Worker Protection by sections 1043 and
5 2203, 2203F of the New York City Charter and sections
6 20-1506A, 20-1507C and 20-1522A3 and A-, and D of the
7 New York City Administrative Code. This hearing
8 affords the public the opportunity to comment on all
9 aspects of the rules the Department has proposed.
10 The Department will carefully review all
11 testimony and written comments received at this
12 hearing and will give due weight and consideration to
13 proposals and recommendations submitted for the record
14 at this hearing. Was everyone ab-,-- were people able
15 to hear that? If someone could just put a message in
16 the chat, if they could hear that. I see Dijon has
17 said that they cannot hear me but let me know. Okay.
18 Great. Thank you.
19 A few ground rules. I will give some
20 remarks in Spanish in a sec. You know, we will unmute
21 you and allow you to turn your camera on only when it
22 is your turn to speak. When it's your turn to speak,
23 we will track you down and give you the opportunity to
24 do that. You will have three minutes to provide oral
25 testimony. I will, I will stop you after three
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1 minutes. You know, we want to respect everyone's
2 time. There is no limit for testimony offered online
3 in writing. Carlene, can you add the link to the NYC
4 rules website into the chat? So, the website we're
5 going to link in the chat is where you can submit your
6 comments online and you can do that until midnight
7 tonight.
8 Please be polite. Respect anyone else. If,
9 if there is repeated foul language or anything in the
10 chat, we will have to shut down the chat. And if you
11 do violate those rules, we will kick you out of this
12 hearing and you will still be able to provide written
13 comments, but you will not be able to attend the rest
14 of the rules hearing. We will not be providing
15 translation for this hearing, but we will make a
16 transcript available of everything that's said. You
17 can offer testimony in your preferred language. That
18 is fine. Just a few things in Spanish. Todos tendrán
19 tres minutos para dar testimonio oral. Si se pasa de
20 los tres minutos, lo voy a interrumpir. No hay lÃmite
21 en lo que puede proporcionar por escrito. Puede enviar
22 comentarios escritos en el enlace del chat. No hay
23 lÃmite en lo que puede proporcionar por escrito. Puede
24 enviar los comentarios escritos en el enlace... ah,
25 perdón. Y ofrezca su testimonio en su idioma
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1 preferido.
2 No estaremos ofreciendo traducción
3 simultánea de esta audiencia, pero, pero habrá una
4 transcripción disponible también. Si tiene preguntas,
5 escrÃbalas en el chat y, si desea ofrecer su
6 testimonio y todavÃa no está registrado con nosotros,
7 utilice la función de levantar la mano en equipos o
8 envÃe mensaje en el chat. Gracias.
9 Okay. We're going to get started here.
10 Thank you. Did I mute myself the whole time, Carly?
11 Okay. Great. Okay. Comptroller Lander, I think
12 you're now on the call. We're going to unmute you and
13 allow you to give your comments. Please just bear
14 with us as we dig through the members on the call.
15 Okay. Comptroller, you should be able to unmute
16 yourself and turn your camera on.
17 MR. BRAD LANDER: Can you hear me okay?
18 MR. DRIVER: Yeah. All set. So, you'll
19 have three minutes for your testimony whenever you're
20 ready.
21 MR. LANDER: Okay. Just one second.
22 Opening up the app here made me lose my testimony.
23 I'll be right there in a second. One second.
24 MR. DRIVER: Thanks. Just while the
25 comptroller is getting ready. Guys, please, please
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1 refrain from putting comments in the chat that are
2 unrelated to logistics for the hearing. You'll have a
3 chance to give your testimony. No, no escribe algo en
4 el chat que no es relacionado al testimonio, logÃstico
5 del testimonio, por favor. Si no necesitamos,
6 necesitamos acabar el chat. Gracias. Sorry,
7 Comptroller. Whenever you're ready.
8 MR. LANDER: Yeah, I apologize. I'm just
9 having a little technical difficulty on, on my end.
10 Give me 30 more seconds. I'm sorry.
11 MR. DRIVER: Okay. We can also have you go
12 next if you want to. Just --
13 MR. LANDER: That's fine. Why don't you
14 let, why don't you let the -- why don't you have
15 somebody --
16 MR. DRIVER: Okay.
17 MR. LANDER: -- go and then I'll go after
18 that. Thank you.
19 MR. DRIVER: Sure. We'll go to the public
20 advocate now. Public Advocate, we're going to unmute
21 you. Okay. Public Advocate, you should be able to
22 turn on your camera and unmute.
23 MR. JUMAANE WILLIAMS: Yes. Can you hear
24 me? Can you see me?
25 MR. DRIVER: Yeah. You're all set.
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1 MR. WILLIAMS: I don't think my shot is
2 great, but you can see me. Thank you.
3 MR. DRIVER: Yeah.
4 MR. WILLIAMS: Can I begin?
5 MR. DRIVER: Yeah. Whenever you're ready.
6 You'll have three minutes.
7 MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you. Good morning. My
8 name is Jumaane Williams, and I'm the public advocate
9 for the City of New York. Thank you, the Department
10 of Consumer and Worker Protection for holding the
11 space and time to hear concerns directly from the
12 public, in particular, delivery workers who serve as a
13 lifeline for our city's restaurants and small
14 businesses. It is crucial that their voices are not
15 only heard but centered through this hearing and
16 beyond.
17 That being said, in 2021, the city council
18 passed a law, local law 115, of which I was a
19 co-sponsor. That law, as we know, required DCWP to
20 study the working conditions of third-party food
21 delivery workers. Following the study, DCWP would
22 have until January 1, 2023 to communicate rules
23 establishing the minimum per trip payments for these
24 delivery workers. It's now April 7, 2023, and we're
25 still waiting. While I recognize DCWP's reasons for
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1 the delays after studies and assessments, at the end
2 of the day, the agency has to honor the law.
3 The timeline for its implementation should
4 have been fast-tracked and ready to be the desig-, --
5 meet the designated date of January 1st. Many
6 delivery, many delivery workers were antici-, -- were
7 in anticipation of that date. Instead they, they are
8 -- excuse me, three months later, needing to advocate
9 for their needs once again after many, many years of
10 making sure that we made through this pandemic that
11 people got what they needed and being exploited. What
12 I hope to come from this second public hearing is a
13 wage that truly reflects the dignity of all delivery
14 workers.
15 Delivery workers serve as the bridge between
16 New Yorkers and our city's restaurants and small
17 businesses. They are people who, amidst a health
18 crisis, provided meals directly to our front doors,
19 rain or shine. They travel through virtually all
20 kinds of weather to deliver our food, even when a
21 deadly virus is outside, and people didn't want to go
22 out. Delivery workers are also more likely to be
23 subject to traffic violence, especially if traveling
24 on a micro-mobility vehicle. In particular, think of
25 the tragic events at the hands of a reckless and
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1 dangerous driver on February 13th in Bay Ridge, and
2 how some of the victims were delivery workers just
3 trying to make a living.
4 Furthermore, many delivery workers come from
5 immigrant backgrounds and are limited English-
6 proficient, which may leave room for exploitation.
7 This is often a thankless job without many benefits to
8 self, our office put out a gig worker report just last
9 year, which shows how this industry is so ripe for
10 exploitation. The city has made so many strides in
11 empowering delivery workers and recognizing the worker
12 rights and powers. DCWP has the opportunity to also
13 recognize the contributions of our city's delivery
14 workers by proceeding with the implementation of local
15 law 115.
16 The result of the past year since the
17 enactment of local law 115 should reflect the tireless
18 work and collaboration of delivery workers, of
19 electors, and of adv-, -- all advocates in this space.
20 I thank delivery workers for their work every day to
21 keep stomachs full, restaurants busy and our city
22 worker -- our city running. I will say the more we
23 have to wait, and workers have to wait for DCWP to get
24 government to follow the law, the more we are simply
25 accomplices in much of the theft I believe that occurs
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1 and many of these big businesses want to continue a
2 system that exploits them. Thank you so much.
3 MR. DRIVER: Great. Thank you so much,
4 Public Advocate. Really appreciate it. Comptroller,
5 whenever you're ready, if you're all set to go.
6 MR. LANDER: Thank you, Charlie. Ready now.
7 Thank you for the opportunity to testify as the lead
8 sponsor of local law 115 of 2021. I'm angry about the
9 months-long delay in implementation, which violates
10 the law and forces the delivery workers who kept us
11 fed through the pandemic to wait even longer for an
12 overdue pay raise. But I'm even angrier about the
13 effort to hide a pay cut in regulatory doublespeak at
14 the behest of corporate lobbyists for billion-dollar
15 app companies who profited during the pandemic and are
16 now trying to preserve a subminimum wage pay model.
17 The Department of Consumer and Worker
18 Protection must guarantee that workers are paid at
19 least a minimum wage after expenses for every hour
20 they work, including the time they spend waiting for
21 their next trip. Now, DCWP staff worked hard to
22 research and calculate a minimum pay rate in an effort
23 to fulfill the requirements of the legislation and the
24 worker-led campaign that led to its passage.
25 Unfortunately, after promulgating a first proposed
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1 rule, DCWP appears to be capitulating to the apps in
2 their lobbying for a subminimum pay.
3 And let's be clear, while DCWP attempts to
4 present the revised rule as giving an hourly wage for
5 workers of $19.96 after reductions for the entirely
6 fabricated concept of multi-apping. And the needless
7 phase-in granted without merit in response to
8 corporate lobbying and after deductions for expenses,
9 taxes paid, time off and worker's compensation, the
10 average base wage in 2023 and you can do the math,
11 would actually be $12.69. And let's break it down a
12 little more. The $3.60 pay reduction for the
13 fabricated concept of multi-apping must be eliminated
14 entirely.
15 This proposal is not supported by the DCWP
16 report or research. It's inappropriate and it results
17 in a guaranteed subminimum wage like for hired vehicle
18 drivers who receive no multi-apping deduction for
19 their comparable minimum pay rule. Delivery workers
20 may spend their on-call waiting time with multiple
21 apps open, but during that time no one is paying them.
22 They need to be fairly compensated for their waiting
23 time through an appropriate utilization rate applied
24 to their trips, and the revised rule utterly fails to
25 do it. And second, the idea of having a phase-in so
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1 that DoorDash, GrubHub and Uber can wait two more
2 years just to reach the minimum wage while still not
3 paying for health care, while still not contributing
4 to unemployment insurance.
5 It is an insult. It violates the law we
6 pass, and it insults the dignity of these workers. It
7 really is this simple. DCWP must guarantee that
8 workers are paid at least the $15 minimum wage for
9 every hour they work after expenses, including the
10 time they spend waiting for their next trip, starting
11 now. That's not the revised rule you promulgated in
12 response to corporate lobbying, but it truly should be
13 the final rule that you issue. Thank you very much.
14 MR. DRIVER: Great. Thank you very much,
15 Comptroller. I appreciate it as always. Next up, we
16 will have Council Member Hanif. Council Member Hanif,
17 I think we should be turning on your camera and
18 microphone privileges in a moment. Again, if you're
19 looking to testify and you haven't already, let me
20 know. Please raise your hand and we will facilitate
21 that for you. Si desea ofrecer su testimonio y
22 todavÃa no está registrado, utilice la función de
23 levantar la mano o envÃe... sÃ, levantar la mano en
24 equipos. Gracias. Council Member Hanif, whenever,
25 whenever you're set, you'll have three minutes. Thank
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1 you so much.
2 MS. SHAHANA HANIF: Thank you so much,
3 Charlie. Good morning. I'm Council Member Shahana
4 Hanif. I represent the 39th District in Brooklyn and
5 chair the council's committee on immigration. I'm
6 extremely disappointed that we're here today
7 discussing a second proposed rule from the Department
8 of Consumer and Worker Protection regarding minimum
9 pay for food delivery service workers. The
10 Department's first proposed rule took important steps
11 towards rectifying the under-compensation compensation
12 that our city's delivery workers have suffered through
13 since the emergence of the online third-party food
14 delivery system.
15 However, DCWP's new proposal rolls back this
16 progress and threatens to establish a subminimum wage
17 for these workers. It is clear to me that the second
18 proposed rule was made at the behest of the third-
19 party apps that profit from the exploitation of
20 delivery workers. This is absolutely unacceptable.
21 Silicon Valley tech companies cannot be writing public
22 policy for New York City. I urge the Department to
23 revise the rule so that it reflects the true industry
24 conditions that its own study found instead of
25 catering to false narratives peddled by corporate
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1 lobbyists.
2 On March 21st, I was proud to join
3 Comptroller Lander, Borough President Reynoso and 21
4 council members in sending a letter to Commissioner
5 Mayuga that laid out four changes that must be made to
6 this rule in order for it to comply with local law 115
7 of 2021. I'd like to take this opportunity to
8 reiterate them here. One, the $3.60 pay reduction for
9 so-called multi-apping must be eliminated. Two, the
10 phase-in of the minimum pay standard must be
11 eliminated. Three, workers must be paid for their
12 individual waiting time rather than in the aggregate
13 or based on industry average. And four, the formula
14 for cost-of-living adjustments must be revised to
15 account for inflation and business expenses.
16 My Bangladeshi constituents in Kensington
17 who do this work deserve better than this. The
18 Latino, African and Asian immigrants who predominantly
19 make up this workforce and who I am tasked to advocate
20 for as immigration chair deserve better than this.
21 They risked their health to keep our communities fed
22 and keep the restaurant industry alive during the
23 pandemic. They've been denied the basic dignity of
24 bathroom access and shelter during snowstorms.
25 They've experienced unsafe street conditions that
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1 killed 18 deliveristas in 2022 alone.
2 The rule in front of us today would
3 illegally continue the exploitation of this essential
4 workforce. I'm proud to join with groups like
5 [unintelligible] [00:18:02] and Desis Rising Up &
6 Moving in opposing this rule. The Department must
7 reject this rule and return with a revision that meets
8 the requirements of local law 115 of 2021 and allows
9 delivery workers to make a living wage. Thank you so
10 much.
11 MR. DRIVER: Great. Thank you so much,
12 Council Member. Appreciate it as always. Next up,
13 we'll have Greg Clark from Council Member Krishnan's
14 office. Greg, we're, we're going to track you down
15 and allow you to unmute and turn your camera on.
16 Greg, you should be all set. Whenever you're ready,
17 you'll have three minutes.
18 MR. GREG CLARK: Great. Can you hear me?
19 MR. DRIVER: Yeah.
20 MR. CLARK: Awesome. Good morning,
21 everyone. So, like Charlie mentioned, my name is Greg
22 Clark. I'm here on behalf of Council Member Shekar
23 Krishnan, who represents the 25th Council District,
24 which includes the neighborhood of Ja-, --
25 neighborhoods of Jackson Heights and Elmhurst and many
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1 of the constituents include our delivery workers who
2 are fighting for a fair minimum wage. Council member
3 was proud to be in support of local law 115 of 2021,
4 which was passed by the City Council las-, -- in 2021.
5 And we were encouraged by the previous steps taken by
6 DCWP to roll out rules so that wages could go into
7 effect by January 1, 2023, as outlined by the
8 legislation.
9 However, we are disappointed with the DCWP's
10 decision to reissue the draft rule for implementation
11 of local law 115 of 2021. By taking this action, the
12 Department both delays and undermines the law
13 requiring a minimum pay standard for our deliveristas.
14 Further, DCWP is essentially stealing roughly
15 [unintelligible] [00:19:55]. And if this proposed
16 rule takes effect as it is currently written, it will
17 allow app companies to continue to pay delivery
18 workers far below the minimum wage rate. If the
19 impact of certain business practices such as order
20 bundling, bundling are ignored as well as the inflated
21 instances of multi-apping are continued to be
22 encompassed in this rule.
23 Thus, we urge the Department to consider
24 changes to its most recent draft rule before
25 implementing it. So, I want to talk about four quick
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1 points. First, the instances of multi-apping are
2 inflated, as others have previously mentioned, and
3 there is no reason that the proposed rule should
4 include an opportunity to reduce worker pay by $3.60
5 per hour because of this so-called multi-apping.
6 Delivery workers may keep several apps open while
7 waiting for their next job, and the recent minimum pay
8 rule for, for hired vehicle workers has no multi-
9 apping deduction even though like delivery workers,
10 they may have multiple apps open while waiting for
11 their next job.
12 Additionally, the phase-in period is an
13 unlawful delay. Although the revised rule reduced
14 this phase-in period, it continues to include this
15 period, which explicitly allows these multi-billion-
16 dollar app corporations to delay paying their workers
17 a minimum wage for an additional two years. The
18 initial TLC driver pool-,-- driver pay rule
19 immediately brought for hired vehicle drivers up to
20 the minimum wage with no phase-in. There is no
21 conceivable justification for it in this proposed
22 rule, and this phase-in period should be removed.
23 Further, DCWP should closely -- should study
24 and closely monitor the prac-, -- the impact of
25 practices such as order bundling which can reduce
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1 workers' pay under the alternative method scenario.
2 This practice on part of the apps consists of sending
3 multiple orders that the workers need to complete
4 during the same trip. Ignoring this and potentially
5 harming business practices will allow the app
6 companies to continue to pay delivery workers far
7 below the minimum wage, a right that all workers enjoy
8 in our city.
9 Finally, the proposed rule underestimates
10 the impact of inflation on expenses. And this is at a
11 time when transportation sector business expenses have
12 faced an inflationary rate three times the overall
13 increase in the CPI, the Consumer Price Index. The
14 adjusted rate should reflect the maintenance and
15 safety costs and tax treatment, regardless of whether
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