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Excerpts of the Transcript of the January 30, 2020
Deposition of Charles Bachtell
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·1· · · · · · · · · · ·CHARLES BACHTELL
·2· · · · · SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK
· · · · · · · · · · · COUNTY OF NEW YORK
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· · CRESCO LABS, NEW YORK, LLC a· ·)
·4· New York limited company, and· )
· · CRESCO LABS, LLC, an Illinois· )
·5· limited liability company,· · ·)
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·6· · · · · Plaintiff,· · · · · · ·)Index No.
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·7· · · ·- against -· · · · · · · ·)652343/2018
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· · FIORELLO PHARMACEUTICALS, INC.,)
·9· a New York corporation, ERIC· ·)
· · SIROTA, an individual, SUSAN· ·)
10· YOSS, an individual, and· · · ·)
· · JOHN DOES 1-10,· · · · · · · · )
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· · · · · · Defendants.· · · · · · )
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14· · · · · · · · · · · ·CONFIDENTIAL
15· · · · · · · · · ·ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
16· · · · ·VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF CHARLES BACHTELL
17· · · · · · · · Thursday, January 30, 2020
18· · · · · · · · · · Chicago, Illinois
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23· Reported By:
24· TRICIA J. LATHOURIS, CSR, RPR
25· JOB NO. 174109
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·2· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection.· Form.
·3· · · A· ·Myself, John Figone; you know, to a certain
·4· extent, Ken Amann and Joe Caltabiano.
·5· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
·6· · · Q· ·What was your role in the negotiations with
·7· Fiorello?
·8· · · A· ·I was -- I was heavily involved.· I was the
·9· lead, I would say.
10· · · Q· ·You were the lead negotiator; is that
11· right?
12· · · A· ·Yes.
13· · · Q· ·Did you also take the lead in doing
14· revisions to the LOI from Cresco's side?
15· · · A· ·The lead in revisions?
16· · · Q· ·Yeah.· Did you -- yes.
17· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection to form.
18· · · A· ·I participated in revisions.· I don't know
19· if I was -- I -- struggling to understand what it
20· means to be the lead in revisions.
21· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
22· · · Q· ·Were you the one that actually affected the
23· revisions into the draft into the LOI?
24· · · MR. VAIL:· Same objection.· Like typing it in?
25· · · A· ·I would ask the same question.· Like typing
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·2· · · A· ·I don't recall.· The -- the one thing I do
·3· know is Fiorello was aware of our efforts to raise
·4· capital at all times.
·5· · · Q· ·When did -- what does that mean?· I don't
·6· -- when did Fiorello become aware that Cresco was
·7· making an effort to raise capital?
·8· · · A· ·I couldn't specifically pinpoint, but to
·9· the best of my recollection, it would have been
10· probably from the time that we were -- we first
11· started talking with them.
12· · · Q· ·Can you think -- are there any documents
13· that reflect that Susan and Eric were aware that
14· Cresco would be raising capital in connection with
15· the Fiorello purchase -- that they knew before the
16· signing of the LOI?
17· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection to form and foundation.
18· · · A· ·I -- I don't know.
19· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
20· · · Q· ·When the LOI was executed, did Cresco have
21· adequate funding to be able to close the Fiorello
22· deal?
23· · · A· ·I don't recall.
24· · · Q· ·What -- if that -- if you needed to find
25· that out, what documents within Cresco might you
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·2· · · Q· ·-- says, "Now that the LOI is signed" --
·3· · · A· ·Uh-huh.
·4· · · Q· ·-- "please let us know how you want to move
·5· forward with diligence and the management oversight
·6· and Definitive Agreements."
·7· · · · · Do you see that?
·8· · · A· ·I do.
·9· · · Q· ·Did you respond to him on those points?
10· · · A· ·I -- to the best of my knowledge -- again,
11· we were in pretty constant communication, so whether
12· or not it's in this email chain in front of me, I'm
13· assuming that we connected on those points.
14· · · Q· ·Do you have a specific recollection of when
15· you first started making progress on due diligence?
16· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection to form.
17· · · A· ·I -- I seem to remember there being a delay
18· on Fiorello's part in getting us the diligence
19· materials.
20· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
21· · · Q· ·Do you recall providing -- when you
22· provided Fiorello with a diligence list?
23· · · A· ·I -- I don't recall the exact dates, but
24· I'm -- I don't recall the exact dates.
25· · · Q· ·What about with regard to the management
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·2· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection.· Asked and answered.
·3· · · A· ·I would -- you know, again, I don't think
·4· this is a big assumption.· This was created
·5· post-signing of the LOI, so I would imagine it was
·6· the signing of this agreement -- I -- I would -- I
·7· would say it wasn't the signing of the LOI when
·8· they're saying "signing" here.
·9· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
10· · · Q· ·So what's -- what this footnote references,
11· is it fair to say that this -- even if a management
12· oversight agreement were provided pursuant to this
13· footnote 6, that that would not provide funding for
14· Fiorello during the period between execution of the
15· LOI and the execution of Definitive Agreement?
16· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection.· Form.· Foundation.
17· Hypothetical.
18· · · A· ·I agree, I -- that would make me speculate
19· on this.· But just saying Fiorello wasn't that
20· excited by doing a managed service agreement.· They
21· wanted a Definitive Agreement signed before they
22· allowed us to do a lot of things, like even talk to
23· the Department of Health.· That was at their
24· request.· They didn't want to do many things that
25· were an action of moving forward until a Definitive
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·2· Agreement was executed.
·3· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
·4· · · Q· ·Is that documented anywhere?
·5· · · A· ·I don't know.· I -- again, you have the
·6· emails, I would assume.· I -- I'd be very surprised
·7· if there wasn't an email discussing when are we
·8· reaching out to the Department of Health after the
·9· signing of a Definitive Agreement.
10· · · · · Same with us taking operational control of
11· their operations.· They wanted a Definitive
12· Agreement signed.
13· · · Q· ·Do you know whether you actually -- when
14· you -- sorry.
15· · · · · After the execution of the LOI, did there
16· come a time when you went to New York to do some due
17· diligence?
18· · · A· ·Yes.
19· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection to the form.
20· · · THE WITNESS:· Sorry.
21· · · A· ·Yes.
22· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
23· · · Q· ·When was that?
24· · · A· ·I don't recall.
25· · · Q· ·Is that something that would be reflected
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·2· · · Q· ·The subject of the email is, "Fiorello base
·3· agenda."
·4· · · · · Do you see that?
·5· · · A· ·Yes.
·6· · · Q· ·Was that the agenda that you were proposing
·7· for the meeting you were just testifying about?
·8· · · A· ·Yes.
·9· · · Q· ·So the first bullet point says, "Due
10· diligence request."
11· · · · · Do you see that?
12· · · A· ·Yes.
13· · · Q· ·And is that a reference to the due
14· diligence list that had been provided the prior day
15· by your counsel?
16· · · A· ·Yes.
17· · · Q· ·The second bullet point is, "Definitive
18· document."
19· · · · · Do you see that?
20· · · A· ·Yes.
21· · · Q· ·And is that a reference -- what is that a
22· reference to?
23· · · A· ·Presumably the SPA.
24· · · Q· ·Were there other documents that were needed
25· as part of the deal?
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·2· · · A· ·There were.· But at -- at some point -- and
·3· I believe it was early on -- the -- the parties
·4· and/or the attorneys agreed the most important
·5· document is the SPA.· So they were focusing
·6· attention on that definitive document being
·7· prioritized.
·8· · · Q· ·Is that agreement documented anywhere?
·9· · · A· ·I'm not sure if it is or not.
10· · · Q· ·The next bullet point says, "Review" --
11· · · MR. LEFTON:· -- details about discussion --
12· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
13· · · Q· ·Do you recall a specific discussion --
14· · · MR. VAIL:· I think --
15· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
16· · · Q· ·-- involving the agreement to focus first
17· on the SPA?
18· · · A· ·I -- I believe there were several
19· discussions where that course of action, that --
20· that process was discussed, of prioritizing the most
21· important document before getting sidetracked with
22· less critical documents.
23· · · Q· ·Do you have any specific recollection of
24· who participated in such -- in that discussion?
25· · · A· ·I would recommend asking the attorneys that
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·2· were involved in drafting of the definitive
·3· document.
·4· · · Q· ·Is it possible that that was just the most
·5· important document from Cresco's perspective, but
·6· not necessarily from Fiorello's perspective?
·7· · · A· ·Highly unlikely.
·8· · · Q· ·Why is that?
·9· · · A· ·What would be more important than the
10· actual Purchase Agreement?
11· · · Q· ·Fair to say that the Purchase Agreement is
12· the document by which Cresco was gaining the shares,
13· but that the notes were the documents by which
14· Fiorello was ensuring that it would be paid -- that
15· its shareholders would be paid?
16· · · MR. VAIL:· Object to the extent it calls for a
17· legal conclusion.· And foundation.
18· · · A· ·No.· I -- I think the -- again, I think
19· it's very reasonable -- and, again, you brought up
20· the fact that I'm an attorney earlier -- but it
21· would be very reasonable to understand that the
22· document that lays out all of the terms and
23· conditions associated with the transaction gets
24· ironed out before the note that would memorialize
25· the -- the financial terms of it, or any other
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·2· documents associated with closing.
·3· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
·4· · · Q· ·So from your perspective, the SPA outlined
·5· all the terms and conditions of the proposed
·6· transaction?
·7· · · A· ·You know, I could fairly comfortably say
·8· that I think that was the perspective of the parties
·9· involved in the transaction.
10· · · Q· ·Your test- -- you're here to testify as to
11· your personal knowledge.
12· · · A· ·Okay.
13· · · Q· ·So from your perspective, that was the
14· case?
15· · · A· ·Correct.
16· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection.· Asked and answered.
17· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
18· · · Q· ·Okay.· And you --
19· · · A· ·Come to think, you've -- you've asked me a
20· lot of questions about the way that other people
21· felt or the timing associated with it, so --
22· · · Q· ·If I ask what your understanding was of
23· somebody else's behavior, that's one thing.· But if
24· I focus on your personal knowledge, that's another
25· thing.
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·2· to how to interpret the regulations?
·3· · · A· ·Correct.
·4· · · Q· ·Were there any other regulatory issues?
·5· · · A· ·I don't recall.
·6· · · Q· ·Ultimately, though, you wouldn't rely on
·7· Fiorello's interpretation of New York reg --
·8· regulatory structure, would you?· I mean, wouldn't
·9· Cresco seek its own counsel on -- on those points?
10· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection to form and argumentative.
11· · · A· ·I would expect Cresco to do both.· There
12· would be no -- there should be no faster source of
13· information than Fiorello.· And -- and, again, I
14· think you'll see -- I'm assuming it was turned over
15· in documentation -- they -- they regularly had
16· communications with the regulator, getting
17· clarifications as it related to these types of
18· things that aren't articulated in the regulations,
19· but they were additional guidances received directly
20· from -- I forget her name, and I remember it being a
21· her -- but directly from the woman at the regulatory
22· body giving them clarification on certain questions.
23· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
24· · · Q· ·When you met with Susan and Eric in New
25· York, who else was present?
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·2· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection.· Form.
·3· · · A· ·I believe it was myself, Joe Caltabiano and
·4· them two, Eric and Susan.
·5· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
·6· · · Q· ·Where did the meeting take place?
·7· · · A· ·At their WeWork office.
·8· · · Q· ·Do you recall how long it lasted
·9· approximately?
10· · · A· ·I don't.
11· · · Q· ·Forever?
12· · · A· ·I don't remember.
13· · · Q· ·Do you recall having discussions at that
14· meeting about the draft SPA that had been circulated
15· by -- on March 1st?
16· · · A· ·I do.
17· · · Q· ·Okay.· What do you recall about those
18· discussions?
19· · · A· ·I -- I remember them being very dismissive
20· of it.· They -- I -- I forget exactly what they
21· said, but it was along the lines of that was a poor
22· effort, which I found surprising, but, nonetheless
23· -- and they expressed a very dismissive perspective
24· on the first draft.· Had some questions.
25· · · Q· ·After that meeting, do you recall whether
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·2· there was a determination as to who would do the
·3· next turn of the SPA?
·4· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection to form.
·5· · · A· ·I -- I believe it was us because it was --
·6· it was a long time before we ever got a draft back
·7· from Fiorello on the SPA.· So I believe we took
·8· another bite at the apple, incorporating their
·9· concerns that they expressed, sent them another
10· draft.
11· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
12· · · Q· ·Do you recall the -- there being an issue
13· relating to the original SPA including provisions
14· related to working capital?
15· · · A· ·Again, there were -- there were -- there
16· were concerns expressed.· I think working capital
17· was one of them.· Yeah, to the best of my
18· recollection, I think that was one of the issues.
19· · · Q· ·Was there also an issue related to the
20· sellers' representative provisions in the draft SPA?
21· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection.· Form.· Foundation.
22· · · A· ·I -- Could I ask for clarification?
23· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
24· · · Q· ·Sure.· I mean --
25· · · A· ·Was that related to the -- who would act on
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·2· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
·3· · · Q· ·Yes, the date that the LOI was executed.
·4· As of the -- does this email from Mr. Amann refresh
·5· your recollection as to whether Cresco had
·6· sufficient funding available for the acquisition of
·7· Fiorello when it executed the LOI?
·8· · · A· ·The -- again, no, because when it comes to
·9· financing, financing is a fluid situation.· Cresco
10· Labs has been able to fund commitments historically.
11· · · Q· ·You didn't have sufficient funding
12· earmarked for Fiorello, did you?
13· · · MR. VAIL:· Objection to the form.
14· · · A· ·Yeah.· I think the -- the document speaks
15· for itself of the current cash position in the -- in
16· the accounts of Cresco on that day.
17· BY MS. IZOWER-FADDE:
18· · · Q· ·Which was that you didn't have -- as of
19· March 12th, 2018, there was no cash available to
20· consummate the Fiorello transaction?
21· · · A· ·On March 12th, 2018, there was $21 million.
22· · · Q· ·All of which was currently committed to
23· other projects?
24· · · A· ·But there was $21 million in the account.
25· · · Q· ·None of it was earmarked for New York